Retirement tax questions

@dmertz - I apologize for adding to this post in the middle - not sure how else to do it.

 

I made a Roth contribution in in 2018 for $6500.  This year I realized I was only eligible for a partial contribution but removed the entire $6500.00 in June 2020.

 

I followed your instructions as below to amend the 2018 return:

When amending with 2018 TurboTax, simply enter the Roth IRA contribution under Deductions & Credits -> Retirement and Investments -> Traditional and Roth IRA Contributions.  If the contribution is an excess contribution, TurboTax will automatically prepare Form 5329.

 

Turbo Tax calculated the excess to be $6060 (as I was in between the lower & upper limits) and prepared 5329 with this amount on line 23 & 24 with $364 as tax on line 25.  I believe this is correct.  However, in another post that I asked the question I was told that my excess should be noted as the entire $6500.  Can you confirm which is correct - below is my question and their answer

 

Q - Even though I removed the 2018 contribution of $6500.00 in June 2020, based on my AGI I was still eligible to contribute $440 (so $6060 excess). On 2018 & 2019 Form 5329 line 18 the, I should only put the excess contribution correct?  Even though I removed the entire $6500 I should not be taxed/penalized on the additional $440 removed, since I'm eligible to remove contributions anytime (I am under 59 1/2 and have had the account for > 5 years).

 

A) No.   Your 2018 & 2019 excess was $6,500.     An excess contribution penalty has nothing whatsoever to do with the normal tax on taking a distribution.    Age makes no difference.  What the 2018 & 2019 excess was has nothing to do with how much you are eligible to contribute in 2020.  The 6% penalty *repeats* each year that the excess remains.  It is a separate 6% penalty for 2018 & 2019.

 

If removed in 2020 then  that is a 2020 distribution and removing your own contribution is not taxable reguardless of age.