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1098t loop hole

After researching i see there is a loop hole . So when filing my daughters 1098t she has box 1 7875 and box 5 is 1016. So how do i do the work around to be able to get the credit? How would i need to fill it out for my taxes and hers?Im planning to file her as a dependent on my taxes. And she will be filing her taxes also.

 

 
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 KrisD15
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YOU, the Taxpayer claiming the student, use the 1098-T to claim an Education Credit.

If the 1098-T shows that taxable income needs to be claimed, that income is claimed by the student. 

 

TurboTax can handle either scenario. Be sure to list the student as a dependent on your return, and your income first (so the credit will apply to your tax liability first if applicable) then the 1098-T and any 1099-Q attributed to the student. 

Be sure to complete the entire education section until you get to the "Maximize My Tax Break" screen. 

 

IRS Pub 970 has some good suggestions and worth the time to look over

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 Hal_Al
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You don't need to use the loop hole.  That's for parents whose student's 1098-T shows more scholarship in box 5 than qualified expenses in box 1. 

 

You are qualified for the credit without a workaround. You claim the credit by entering the 1098-T, on your tax return and following the interview. .  She does not enter the 1098-T on her tax return, at all. 

 

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Sorry i mis typed that. box 5 has 10,016.00

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 Hal_Al
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There is a tax “loop hole” available to claim an education credit, for the parents of students on scholarship. The student reports all his scholarship, up to the amount needed to claim the American Opportunity Credit (AOC), as income on his return. That way, the parents  (or himself, if he is not a dependent) can claim the tuition credit on their return. They can do this because that much tuition was no longer paid by "tax free" scholarship.  You cannot do this  if the conditions of the grant are that it be used to pay for qualified expenses.

Using an example with your numbers: Student has $10,016 in box 5 of the 1098-T and $7875 in box 1. At first glance he/she has $2141 of taxable income and nobody can claim the American opportunity credit. But if she reports $6141 as income on her return, the parents can claim $4000 of qualified expenses on their return.

Books and computers are also qualifying expenses for the AOC. So, extending the example, the student had another $1000 in expenses for those course materials, paid out of pocket. She would only need to report $5141 of taxable scholarship income, instead of $6141.

 

The way you enter this in TurboTax (TT), when asked if any of the scholarship paid for room & board, in the parent’s interview, enter $6141 (in the 1st  example above).

You can both use the 1098-T to enter the expenses. If you claim the tuition credit, you do need to report that you got one (the TurboTax interview will handle this) Your student should use the 1098-T because it makes entering scholarship income go smoother and puts the income in the right place on the tax forms, line 8r of Schedule 1.

 

You essentially have to use a work around in TurboTax (TT). Here's how I would do it. Enter the 1098-T, on your return, but only enter $4000 in box 1. No other numbers (box 5 blank). You only enter the 1098-T to get TurboTax to check the proper box on form 8863. Lying to TurboTax to get it to do what you want does not constitute lying to the IRS. The 1098-T that you enter in TT is not sent to the IRS.

Enter the 1098-T, exactly as received, on the student's return. Enter book and computer expenses separately.  In his interview, you should eventually reach a screen called "Amount used to calculate education credit" (or similar wording).  Be sure the amount in that box is $4000. That will put all his excess scholarship as income on his return (line 8r of Schedule 1).

Be advised some people are saying they're not getting the "Amount used to claim the tuition credit" (or “Education Expenses used for a Tax Credit”) screen on the dependent’s interview.  Check the student information work sheet (part VI, line 17) to verify it was entered.  If not, the alternate workaround is  to enter $4000 less than the actual box 1  amount, when you enter the 1098-T.

There's yet another (and simplest) work around. Manually calculate the taxable amount of scholarship and enter the 1098-T, on her return, with 0 in box 1 and the  taxable amount  in box 5. Enter no other numbers. In that case the amount in the  "Amount used to claim the tuition  credit" box is 0 (if it comes up).

 

 

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Alright ,

On the parents return in box 1 i put 2000 and  left all other boxes at 0 including box 5, now on the students return i entered 5875 in box 1( original line on box 1 is 7875.00 on the 1098t) and i left the 10,016.00 (the original scholarship amount) in box 5. 

She no longer has receipts  for the computer and books she bought so i cant enter that. 

Will this be ok to file it like this? And its all legal right?