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Deductions & credits

@margz , I have gone back and refreshed my memory  on this :

(a) Looked at the instructions for form 1116 ---- 3a is from Schedule-A except for interest expense deduction  and 3b is all other deductions that are not definitely connected to the foreign source income,   This  kind of lines up with your post regarding  itemized deduction allocation.

(b) looked at the internal document / instructions  from TubroTax regarding populating  the boxes on form 1116.   Here  they are taking all the itemized deduction and distributing these  to lines 3a and 3b. kind of in line with the specifics of IRS instruction for form 1116.

(c) Gambling loss ( limited by winnings) is entered on  line 16  and therefore flows on to form 1116 , line a or line b.  IRS suggests in its instruction to  include  all other "not definitely related to foreign income source expenses " such as alimony  which is an adjustment to Gross income ands on Schedule-1.

(d) The question here is what is the form 1116 trying to do --- it is trying to collect all the foreign income and all the  world income to get a ratio of  Foreign Source income to World income.  Then since all the  deduction/ adjustments that are not connected to any source ( i.e. like standard deduction   or  itemized deductions and adjustments) be allocated   ratably to Foreign Source and US source income.   What you are achieving out of this is to be able to   allocate the tax burden to foreign source income and to US sourced income.

 

Thus my position is that the gambling loss  ( line 16 of the Itemized deduction )  can be allocated to either 3a or 3b -- the end result is the same.  In a perfect world it  should be on line 3a but  either one achieves the same result -- the allocation of all deductions and adjustments equitably between the  Foreign Source and US sourced incomes.

 

I rest my case 

 

Is there more I can do for you .

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