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Well mike what I am talking about is the recent scam by turbo tax and credit karma or should I just say Intuit. They offer a free tax refund advance loan but u have to meet the criteria which includes opening an account through credit karma money acct. i did all that was requested but once I signed the return and it was accepted there was no more talk of the advance no links no chats no resource info number. All I had was a new acct that my tax return is going to no loan and no way to access this account. And to make it worse no one will talk to me from credit karma tgere is not a way to speak with anyone and all the turbo tax folks keep promising me a phone call from a supervisor but no one ever calls. Funny turbo tax was just found guilty and slapped with 141 million dollar suit and credit karma has been hit with a 3 millions dollar suite. Do yoj have any more questions?