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@ kamocio wrote:

Yes, married filing jointly return. Only my wife needs a PIN. Yes, 100% sure we are getting a refund.

We did go to that link, and it is there that we had to register and wait for 5-10 days to get some piece of paper mail, apparently. We could not do it just online.


OK.  Well, if you are getting a Federal refund, you shouldn't have any Federal penalty for the late return.