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Thanks @KathrynG3 , your reply was really helpful! I realized I actually don't have any money in box 4, i misread it the first time, but your reply really helped understand the form better. I have another followup question if you have the time! So when I subtract ox 1 from box 5 is that the amount I list as a response to the amount for Other Scholarships/Grants/Fellowships under the question Did you Receive a Scholarship or Grant in 2020?