I forgot to tell you you're right you cannot get the pin number online whatsoever I have tried for days and days at a time you have to do the 1040 form you can download it from the irs.com and then you put down any information that they asked then you dated & it make sure you send it in and wait for an answer that's what I'm waiting for right now if I get one soon I'll let you know stay safe and good luck
