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@ ronjmeyer7 wrote: how is line 4a and 4b entered
the amount on line 4a was sent directly to church by bank

 

You didn't say what form and what you are entering, so we have to guess a bit what the 4a and 4b refer to.   Since you mentioned "church", is this a qualified charitable distribution (QCD) from an IRA?   If so, please provide more info, and hopefully someone familiar with QCD's  and their reporting in Online TurboTax will be able to help you further.