pk
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@fbelle , sorry for the delay -- I was actually looking for you post so I could reply --- just so many others had  come in that I lost track of where your post was. Thank you for coming back in --- put it up in the visible window.

 

There have been many updates  etc. to the  treaty but what is interesting  to me is   that article 19.2(a)    refers to public fund based pensions/ remuneration being ONLY taxable  in  distributing country but  as an afterthought  Article  19.4  allows taxation of Social Security and other public funded  pensions to be also taxed by the resident country  at no more  than  15% tax rate .   So this  conflict/ carve out may not help your situation.

 

At the same time  and on looking over your timing of entering the USA and getting the GreenCard creates another  issue --- Based on   (a)  06/xx/24  legal entry  in to the USA,   (b) Passing SPT in sometime in Nov 2024 and (c) Meeting the GreenCard Test in  11/xx/2024 ,  your residency start date would be the first day legal presence  in the year.  Thus  since you were a Tax resident from 06/xx/2024 , there is NO Way  to exclude this foreign source income from US taxes.

So my conclusion is that you have to recognize  the   Total Distribution as  Pension distribution for US tax Purposes -- the Gross amount.  You report this just as if you had received  a 1099-R  ( not a substitute 1099-R) -- you tell TurboTax you have pension income,  do not have EIN of the distribution /administrator,  Box 1 has the whole amount of the distribution, Box 2a has the taxable amount  ( this should be total distribution LESS any contribution that you had made  over the participating years ),  Box 2b , check the Box  "Total Distribution",   Box 7 -- Distribution Code 7 -- Normal.

Then when in  "Deductions and Credits" section, select Foreign Tax Credit and follow through with filling out  form 1116 --- your  Foreign source income is  the 1099-R taxable income, and Foreign Taxes Paid   is  the actual taxes  paid to Switzerland.    

This path generally implies that you are ignoring article 19  but just using the  article 23 .2   ( first sentence ).

 

Does this make sense ?  Is there more I can do for you ?

 

pk

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