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You responses have helped me better understand !!

 

I owe Federal $1,200.  So the $40 issue becomes moot since there is no refund.  I owe no state tax so it seems the $40 charge was to be able to use $25 of a Federal refund to pay for the state return efile.  I believe that is correct.  So, if I had a Federal amount due, I could choose to spend $65 total to efile state or does the $40 fee include the $25 charge?

 

I had chosen the direct withdrawal from my checking account option to pay the Federal amount due.  So I think I have to use my credit card to pay the $25 fee for State filing and there is no additional fee to do so.  And there is no option to have the $25 withdrawn from my checking account.

 

Am I close?  thank you so much for your expertise and help !! 

 

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