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kkappy5
Returning Member

Education Expenses reimbursed from 529b plan

We paid for my son's college expenses by sending a check directly from the 529b plan to the Bursar.  This included Room and Board as well as Tuition.  While I understand Room and Board does not qualify as deductible educational expenses for tax purposes, I thought that I could pay for university provided room and board from a 529b without being taxed on it.  Turbotax appears to be taking the gain reported on the 1099Q for funds paid to the college and prorating what portion applied to room and board, then adding that amount to my taxable income.  This doesn't seem right.  I have already entered room and board expenses in the "Other Education Expenses" section. Can anyone help, and how do I fix this?

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Hal_Al
Level 15

Education Expenses reimbursed from 529b plan

The simple fix is to delete both the 1099-Q and the 1098-T.

 

You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. You also cannot count expenses that were paid by tax free scholarships. You cannot double dip! 

References:

  1. On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 
  2. IRS Pub 970 states: “Generally, distributions are tax free if they aren't more than the beneficiary's AQEE for the year. Don't report tax-free distributions (including qualifying rollovers) on your tax return”.

See a full discussion on 529 distributions below the line.

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Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit regardless of whose money was used to pay the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board which is only qualified for the 1099-Q)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

There is  $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. A student, with no other income, can have up to $14,600 of taxable scholarship (in 2024) and still pay no income tax. 

kkappy5
Returning Member

Education Expenses reimbursed from 529b plan

Thank you for your help!  Just to make sure I understand, he has education expenses (qualified for 529b withdrawals) that equal his 1099Q - but he also has a scholarship amount reported on 1098T that went toward tuition.  Am I ok not reporting the 1098T because it was directly offset by tuition costs?

Hal_Al
Level 15

Education Expenses reimbursed from 529b plan

Q.  Am I ok not reporting the 1098T because it was directly offset by tuition costs?

A. Yes, as long as you didn't also use those same tuition costs in calculating how much 529 distribution to take.  You have to use separate (from the expenses the scholarship covers) expenses when calculating a 529 distribution. 

 

You haven't mentioned whether you are eligible for the tuition credit (your income is not too high).  Don't assume you are not eligible for the credit just because scholarships and 529 plan paid all the expenses.  There's a way around that (probably tax free, or at least low tax). 

kkappy5
Returning Member

Education Expenses reimbursed from 529b plan

I think my income is too high for either the AOTC or Lifetime Learning Credit.  Sounds like it will be simpler to just remove the 1099Q and 1098T.  Thanks again for your help!

Education Expenses reimbursed from 529b plan

Turbotax desktop is not letting me delete previously entered education expenses that I entered in error.  If I mark "No" on Do you have higher education expenses, it does not delete the 1098-T information.  Is this a tech support issue?     Should I just delete the Student (Education Expense Summary page) all together and start over?

Hal_Al
Level 15

Education Expenses reimbursed from 529b plan

Go through the entire education interview until you reach a screen titled "Your Education Expenses Summary".  Click delete next to the student's name.  

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