turbotax icon
cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
Announcements
Close icon
Do you have a TurboTax Online account?

We'll help you get started or pick up where you left off.

Two different IRA Events in the Same Year (Converted IRA to Roth AND Backdoor Roth)

I had two different IRA events occur in the same year.

 

  1. I converted an amount from a Traditional, SEP, or SIMPLE IRA to a Roth IRA.  My 1099-R from Vangard shows this as a gross distribution with $0 taxable amount, total distribution is checked, distribution code G, and IRA/SEP/SIMPLE is checked.  This account was an IRA for years and has both contributions and earnings before I converted it.  The taxable amount was not determined (however, the taxable amount not determined is NOT checked on the 1099)
  2. I completed a backdoor Roth transaction.  My 1099-R from Vangard shows this a gross distribution with the full amount as taxable.  Taxable amount not determined is checked, total distribution is checked, distribution code 2, and IRA/SEP/SIMPLE is checked

The software appears to be generating one combined Form 8606, but only the $3k backdoor portion is appearing in Part I, while the $22k conversion is being treated as fully taxable and bypassing the basis calculation.

 

I am getting an error that for the conversion, box G is incorrect (it expects code 2 or 7).  I do not know if completed the conversion incorrectly in Vangard and need a corrected 1099-R OR if I am entering this incorrectly into TurboTax. 

x
Do you have an Intuit account?

Do you have an Intuit account?

You'll need to sign in or create an account to connect with an expert.

1 Best answer

Accepted Solutions
dmertz
Level 15
Intuit Approved! This answer has been verified for accuracy by an Intuit expert employee

Two different IRA Events in the Same Year (Converted IRA to Roth AND Backdoor Roth)

A Form 1099-R with code G in box 7 and the IRA/SEP/SIMPLE box marked is only for reporting a rollover from a traditional IRA to a traditional account in an employer plan like a 401(k).  Such a rollover is always entirely nontaxable.  Code G with the IRA/SEP/SIMPLE box marked cannot be used to report a rollover to any kind of Roth account.

 

If this distribution was indeed deposited into a Roth IRA, you'll need to get a corrected Form 1099-R from Vanguard.  If they refuse, you'll need to submit a substitute Form 1099-R using code 1 or code 2 (either will produce the same result because the conversion to Roth is not subject to an early-distribution penalty).

 

Code G means a direct rollover to or from an employer plan.  Perhaps someone made a mistake by thinking that a Roth conversion is a direct rollover; by definition, it's not.

View solution in original post

2 Replies

Two different IRA Events in the Same Year (Converted IRA to Roth AND Backdoor Roth)

Disregard, solved.  I made a mistake but don't know how to take down this question

dmertz
Level 15
Intuit Approved! This answer has been verified for accuracy by an Intuit expert employee

Two different IRA Events in the Same Year (Converted IRA to Roth AND Backdoor Roth)

A Form 1099-R with code G in box 7 and the IRA/SEP/SIMPLE box marked is only for reporting a rollover from a traditional IRA to a traditional account in an employer plan like a 401(k).  Such a rollover is always entirely nontaxable.  Code G with the IRA/SEP/SIMPLE box marked cannot be used to report a rollover to any kind of Roth account.

 

If this distribution was indeed deposited into a Roth IRA, you'll need to get a corrected Form 1099-R from Vanguard.  If they refuse, you'll need to submit a substitute Form 1099-R using code 1 or code 2 (either will produce the same result because the conversion to Roth is not subject to an early-distribution penalty).

 

Code G means a direct rollover to or from an employer plan.  Perhaps someone made a mistake by thinking that a Roth conversion is a direct rollover; by definition, it's not.

Unlock tailored help options in your account.

message box icon

Get more help

Ask questions and learn more about your taxes and finances.

Post your Question