I am using TurboTax for business for an S-Corp and I have seen a serious bug regarding deductions.
In the step-by-step instructions, I see a large number for salary deductions that is almost double the data that I actually entered. When I show the detail behind that number it shows the actual data that I entered and it corrects itself; however, the next time I open TurboTax for business, I see the inflated number and it distorts the business profitability.
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Can you provide more details on where in the program and how you entered the salaries/wages?
Also, details such as salaries/wages of officers and employees?
Have you checked the figures in Forms Mode?
I entered the salary data using the step-by-step instructions and it’s very simple because I only have one employee (me). I expand the box for salaries under federal deductions and enter my salary. When I reopen TurboTax and return to the summary page for federal deductions, the total salaries is almost double the data I entered. If I open up the details behind the summary page, it shows the correct number and when I return to the federal deductions summary page, it shows the correct number; however, every time I close and reopen TurboTax, the error returnsz
Are you certain you are not entering your salary twice, once in the Officers box and again in the Shareholders box?
Otherwise, enter Forms Mode, open your 1120-S and look at Line 8.
I am definitely only entering my salary once under officers >2%. There are several inconsistencies here between:
The way this should work is:
That's not the way it is working - there are some serious inconsistencies in this that indicate bugs and the data changes simply by closing and reopening TurboTax.
It would be helpful to have a TurboTax ".tax2023" file that is experiencing this issue. If you would be willing to send us a “diagnostic” file that has your “numbers” but not your personal information, please follow these instructions:
In TurboTax Desktop, open your return and go to Online in the TurboTax header.
We will then be able to see the same experience you are having. If we are able to determine the cause, we'll reply here and provide you with a resolution.
I sent a copy of my data as you requested. The token number is 1169811.
I'm not sure what you mean by a tag.
Thank you for the token. What state(s) is/are included with this return? We need that information to access the file. (I tagged you below.)
@chuck3
I don’t believe there are any states included in this. My S-Corp is incorporated in Florida and I’m not required to file a state return for my business.
Thank you. We'll take a look and post our findings in this thread.
Yes, your return at startup up shows the salaries and compensation twice on the form 1120S. First, we will make the corrections (clear errors) and then I'll explain the step-by-step entries for future reference.
"Line 18. Employee Benefit Programs Enter amounts for fringe benefits paid or incurred on behalf of employees owning 2% or less of the corporation's stock. These fringe benefits include (a) employer contributions to certain accident and health plans, (b) the cost of up to $50,000 of group-term life insurance on an employee's life, and (c) meals and lodging furnished for the employer's convenience. Don't deduct amounts that are an incidental part of a pension, profit-sharing, etc., plan included on line 17 or amounts reported elsewhere on the return or on Form 1125-A. Report amounts for fringe benefits paid on behalf of employees owning more than 2% of the corporate stock on line 7 or 8 (or Form 1125-E), whichever applies."
That's very confusing and is a deficiency in the software as far as I am concerned. In my opinion, someone should be able to enter all of this data into the step-by-step instructions without ever directly going into the forms and the data entered in the step-by-step should go into the correct place in the forms. That does not appear to be the case. There are inconsistencies between the data entered from the step-by-step instructions and what's in the forms and the only way to resolve that is to go into the forms and make these changes directly in the forms. That makes the step-by-step instructions almost useless. For someone like me who is just a small business owner and not a trained accountant, that is unacceptable.
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