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Can an individual taxpayer claim carryback for net section 1256 contracts losses?

I have a pretty large 1256 contracts capital loss. Can I, as an individual taxpayer, carry back that loss? If so, how many years back and what is the maximum amount I can apply to each previous year?

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Anonymous
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Can an individual taxpayer claim carryback for net section 1256 contracts losses?

maybe because it also depends on what transpired in the carryback years. 

 

here are the rules

Box D. Net Section 1256 Contracts Loss Election
If you have a net section 1256 contracts loss for 2019, you can elect to carry it back 3 years. Corporations,
partnerships, estates, and trusts aren’t eligible to make this election. Your net section 1256 contracts loss is the smaller of:
• The excess of your losses from section 1256 contracts over the total of
(a) your gains from section 1256 contracts plus (b) $3,000 ($1,500 if married filing separately), or
• The total you would figure as your short-term and long-term capital loss carryovers to 2020 if line 6 of Form 6781 were zero. Use a separate Schedule D (Form 1040 or 1040-SR) and Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet (in Pub. 550) to figure this amount.
The amount you can carry back to any prior year is limited to the smaller of:
• The gain, if any, that you would report on line 16 of Schedule D (Form 1040 or 1040-SR) for that carryback year if only gains and losses from section 1256 contracts were taken into account; or
• The gain, if any, reported on line 16 of Schedule D (Form 1040 or 1040-SR) for that carryback year.
The amounts just described are figured prior to any carryback from the loss year. Also, the carryback is allowed only to the extent it doesn’t increase or produce a net operating loss for the carryback year. The loss is carried to the earliest year first. Make the election by checking box D and entering the amount to be carried
back on line 6. To carry your loss back, file Form 1045, Application for Tentative Refund, or an amended return. Attach an amended Form 6781 and an amended Schedule D (Form 1040 or 1040-SR) for the applicable years. On the amended Forms 6781 for the years to which the loss is carried back,
report the carryback on line 1 of that year’s amended Form 6781. Enter “Net section 1256 contracts loss carried back from” and the tax year in column (a), and enter the amount of the loss carried back in column (b).

 

don't think TT does form 1045 so you'll have to file 1040-X 

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Can an individual taxpayer claim carryback for net section 1256 contracts losses?

Study the answer on the IRS website.

You would start by amending your return from two years back.

If you are talking about a loss in 2019, that would be 2017 1040.

 

If you had no gains or tiny gains in those years (2017 and 2018) there's not much point to it.

Anonymous
Not applicable

Can an individual taxpayer claim carryback for net section 1256 contracts losses?

maybe because it also depends on what transpired in the carryback years. 

 

here are the rules

Box D. Net Section 1256 Contracts Loss Election
If you have a net section 1256 contracts loss for 2019, you can elect to carry it back 3 years. Corporations,
partnerships, estates, and trusts aren’t eligible to make this election. Your net section 1256 contracts loss is the smaller of:
• The excess of your losses from section 1256 contracts over the total of
(a) your gains from section 1256 contracts plus (b) $3,000 ($1,500 if married filing separately), or
• The total you would figure as your short-term and long-term capital loss carryovers to 2020 if line 6 of Form 6781 were zero. Use a separate Schedule D (Form 1040 or 1040-SR) and Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet (in Pub. 550) to figure this amount.
The amount you can carry back to any prior year is limited to the smaller of:
• The gain, if any, that you would report on line 16 of Schedule D (Form 1040 or 1040-SR) for that carryback year if only gains and losses from section 1256 contracts were taken into account; or
• The gain, if any, reported on line 16 of Schedule D (Form 1040 or 1040-SR) for that carryback year.
The amounts just described are figured prior to any carryback from the loss year. Also, the carryback is allowed only to the extent it doesn’t increase or produce a net operating loss for the carryback year. The loss is carried to the earliest year first. Make the election by checking box D and entering the amount to be carried
back on line 6. To carry your loss back, file Form 1045, Application for Tentative Refund, or an amended return. Attach an amended Form 6781 and an amended Schedule D (Form 1040 or 1040-SR) for the applicable years. On the amended Forms 6781 for the years to which the loss is carried back,
report the carryback on line 1 of that year’s amended Form 6781. Enter “Net section 1256 contracts loss carried back from” and the tax year in column (a), and enter the amount of the loss carried back in column (b).

 

don't think TT does form 1045 so you'll have to file 1040-X 

Anonymous
Not applicable

Can an individual taxpayer claim carryback for net section 1256 contracts losses?

3 year carryback IRC 1212(c)(1)(A)

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