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not enough in roth ira account to reverse an excess contribution

i made an excess contribution to a Roth iRA in 2019, so i need to withdraw that contribution to reverse it. in the meantime, due to the downturn in the market, the value of that account is now less than the contribution i made. do i just withdraw everything from the account to reverse the contribution?

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DanaB27
Employee Tax Expert

not enough in roth ira account to reverse an excess contribution

Yes, you will tell your financial institution that you want a return of the excess contribution. 

 

You will get a 1099-R  in 2021 with codes P and J. This 1099-R will have to be included on your 2019 tax return and you have two options: 

  • You can wait until  you receive the 1099-R in 2021 and amend your 2019 return or
  • You can report it now in your 2019 return and ignore the 1099-R when it comes unless there is Box 4 Federal Tax withholding and/of box 12 State withholding. Then you must enter the 2020 1099-R into the 2020 tax return since the withholding is reported in the year that the tax was withheld. The 2020 code P will not do anything in 2020 tax return but the withholding will be applied to 2020.

 

To create a 1099-R in your 2019 return please follow the steps below:

  1. Login to your TurboTax Account 
  2. Click on the Search box on the top and type “1099-R”
  3. Click on “Jump to 1099-R”
  4. Select "I'll type it in myself"
  5. Select "I need to prepare a substitute 1099-R"
  6. Box 1 enter total distribution (contribution minus loss)
  7. Box 2 leave blank
  8. Box 7 enter P and J 
  9. On the "Which year on Form 1099-R" screen say that this is a 2020 1099-R.
  10. Continue until you get to the explanation screen and answer that you are reporting a 2020 1099-R on your 2019 tax return to avoid having to amend in 2019.
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DanaB27
Employee Tax Expert

not enough in roth ira account to reverse an excess contribution

Yes, you will tell your financial institution that you want a return of the excess contribution. 

 

You will get a 1099-R  in 2021 with codes P and J. This 1099-R will have to be included on your 2019 tax return and you have two options: 

  • You can wait until  you receive the 1099-R in 2021 and amend your 2019 return or
  • You can report it now in your 2019 return and ignore the 1099-R when it comes unless there is Box 4 Federal Tax withholding and/of box 12 State withholding. Then you must enter the 2020 1099-R into the 2020 tax return since the withholding is reported in the year that the tax was withheld. The 2020 code P will not do anything in 2020 tax return but the withholding will be applied to 2020.

 

To create a 1099-R in your 2019 return please follow the steps below:

  1. Login to your TurboTax Account 
  2. Click on the Search box on the top and type “1099-R”
  3. Click on “Jump to 1099-R”
  4. Select "I'll type it in myself"
  5. Select "I need to prepare a substitute 1099-R"
  6. Box 1 enter total distribution (contribution minus loss)
  7. Box 2 leave blank
  8. Box 7 enter P and J 
  9. On the "Which year on Form 1099-R" screen say that this is a 2020 1099-R.
  10. Continue until you get to the explanation screen and answer that you are reporting a 2020 1099-R on your 2019 tax return to avoid having to amend in 2019.
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not enough in roth ira account to reverse an excess contribution

thanks for the reply.  one question, you say I should select codes P and J in box 7.  however code P indicates "Return of contribution taxable in 2018", shouldn't this actually be code 8, "return of contribution taxable in 2019'?

not enough in roth ira account to reverse an excess contribution

never mind, i think this is a bug in turbo tax.   the IRS instructions indicate that the code P description should actually be "Excess contributions plus earnings/excess deferrals taxable in 2019".

not enough in roth ira account to reverse an excess contribution

There is no  bug.  Re-read the instructions posted by DanaB27.   "9. On the "Which year on Form 1099-R" screen say that this is a 2020 1099-R."

 

The year of a code P advances every year.  For a 2019 1099-R it is "2018", for a *2020* 1099-R that you are entering when you choose that it is a 2020 1099-R then taxable in 2018 advances to 2019.

**Disclaimer: This post is for discussion purposes only and is NOT tax advice. The author takes no responsibility for the accuracy of any information in this post.**

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