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DH21
Level 3

IRA withdrawal from one Rollover IRA but not a Traditional IRA

In a Fidelity account I have one Traditional IRA (with an after-tax, nondeductible contribution basis) and one Rollover IRA (with no nondeductible contribution basis). I withdrew all of the RMDs for both Fidelity accounts from only the Rollover IRA (as Fidelity allows you to do). Since I did not withdraw from my Traditional IRA I assumed that the basis would be unchanged and the RMD total from the Rollover account would be 100% taxable income. But when I provide TurboTax with my Traditional IRA basis, it is reducing that basis and reducing the taxable income amount for my RMD, even though I did not withdraw anything from the Traditional IRA. Should I omit my Traditional IRA info from TurboTax to prevent it from adjusting the basis, or is my Traditional basis automatically reduced because of the Rollover withdrawal, even if I did not make a withdrawal from that account? (Not sure if this is a factor, but I also have Rollover IRAs with Vanguard and T Rowe Price and separately withdrew all the required RMDs from those accounts. So if the Trad IRA was $5 and the three combined Rollovers were $95, but I withdrew a 5% RMD for all $100 only from the $95 Rollover accounts, am I still required to reduce the basis in the $5 Trad account, even though I did not withdraw from it?) As always, thank you for any help, and if there is an IRS pub that explains how Trad + Rollover IRAs are treated for RMDs and basis adjustment I would appreciate that!

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dmertz
Level 15

IRA withdrawal from one Rollover IRA but not a Traditional IRA

A rollover IRA is  a traditional IRA.

 

Your basis does not reside in any particular one of your IRAs.  When you have basis in nondeductible traditional IRA contributions, all of your traditional IRAs, including the rollover IRA, are treated as one combined traditional IRA for the purpose of calculating the taxable amount of a traditional IRA distribution.  When TurboTax asks for your year-end balance in traditional IRAs, you must include the year-end value of all of your traditional IRAs, including the rollover IRA.  Because your basis applies to all of your traditional IRAs combined, some portion of the distribution from your rollover IRA will be nontaxable, determined on Part I of Form 8606.

IRA withdrawal from one Rollover IRA but not a Traditional IRA

for your very last question, see instructions for Form 8606 (or Pub 590) 

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i8606.pdf

 

p3 - "For purposes of these instructions, a traditional IRA is any IRA that isn’t a Roth IRA."

 

I don't think you will find mention of "Rollover IRA" in IRS instructions it's really just a brokerage label

DH21
Level 3

IRA withdrawal from one Rollover IRA but not a Traditional IRA

Thank you! Very helpful.

DH21
Level 3

IRA withdrawal from one Rollover IRA but not a Traditional IRA

Thank you. Much appreciated!

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