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sunny60
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if i pay now will i have to pay estimated

i want to pay my 2023 tax liability now with my 2023 tax forms. turbo tax printed out estimated tax forms for 2024, do i need to make those too. i have no idea what for income is going to be in 2024.

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KrisD15
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if i pay now will i have to pay estimated

No, you do not need to make the estimated payments if you think they will not be needed. 

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if i pay now will i have to pay estimated

Yes you have to pay the 2023 tax due now.  

The 1040ES are estimates for next year. The 1040ES quarterly estimated tax payments DO NOT get sent to the IRS or state with your return. So they won't be expecting them.  They are optional to pay. Turbo Tax is very conservative and doesn't want you to owe too much next year. They might have printed out if you got a one time large income this year. Like if you took a IRA or 401K distribution. You can ignore them. You might want to adjust your withholding at work so you won't owe too much next year.

 

Your tax due is a Single 1040 V voucher unless you entered your bank account for the IRS to pull it out.

 

How to pay a federal tax due

https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-payments/help/how-can-i-pay-my-federal-taxes/00/26212

if i pay now will i have to pay estimated

Turbotax can generate safe estimates.  this means that if you pay the estimates timely and your withholding doesn't decrease, there will be no penalties for underpaying on a timely basis the minimum amount required yo avoid penalties even if your income jumps and you owe a lot. The thing is if you pay those estimates and your withholding doesn't decrease you will have been lending the IRS money interest free.

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here are the rules to avoid penalties for 2024

 

There will be no federal penalties for not paying in enough taxes during the year if withholding

1) and timely estimated tax payments equal or exceed 90% of your 2024 tax or

2) and timely estimated tax payments equal or exceed 100% of your 2023 tax (110% if your adjusted gross income was more than $150K) or

3) the balance due after subtracting taxes withheld from 90% of your 2024 tax is less than $1,000 or

4) your total taxes are less than $1,000

The lower of 1 or 2 is your required annual income tax payments. 1 is difficult to know until the year's end so generally option 2 is the safer option. under the simplified method 25% of the estimated taxes must be paid in each quarter by 4/15, 6/17, 9/16 and 1/15/25.  unless you can show otherwise 25% of your annual withholding is assumed to occur in each period 3/31, 5/31, 8/31 and 12/31. 

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Failing this and being subject to penalties you can use the annualized installment income method. 

this method requires knowing your income and deductions thru 3/31, then 5/31, then 8/31, and finally tear end which should be the same as the tax return. the income is annualized. taxes are computed on the annualized income and then de-annualized. your tax payments for each period must equal or exceed these amounts to avoid penalties.

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form 2210 page 3

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f2210.pdf   

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state laws vary

 

 

 

 

 

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