I am unable to duplicate the calculation on line 14 of form 2210AI in TurboTax Deluxe 2025 regardless of how I treat the annualization of Capital Gains and Qualified Dividends. Whether I annualize both, or either one alone or neither.
TurboTax comes up with a lower tax than I do each quarter. Fortunately, I overpaid each of the first 3 "quarters" and our calculations agree on the final amt. (4th period).
So I think I am safe from being assessed a penalty, but it bothers me that I can't deduce definitively what algorithm TurboTax is using. Does anyone know for sure how Turbo is annualizing Capital Gains and Qualified Dividends?
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Problem solved! TurboTax calculates the amounts on line 14 of Form 2210AI using the "Qualified Dividends and Capital Gain Tax Worksheet" 4 times! Once for each period. It shows you the worksheet only for the 4th period, but it is using it for each period with the appropriate amounts for each period.
I finally solved it by copying the logic from the QD & CG Worksheet into 4 Excel Worksheets and entering the data from line 13 of Form 2210AI, and the table below it, for each period. With that I am now able to reproduce the results of Turbo exactly!
The calculation for interest and dividends will be considered as evenly received throughout the tax year unless you specify other words.
The quarters are not actual quarters and are based on the due dates of the estimated tax which are, April, June, September, January.
Converting interest and dividends to equal monthly amounts made little difference since those income streams are close to evenly distributed anyway. And no matter what I do with capital gains, either by entering it as received in each period or distributing it evenly still didn't match what TurboTax calculates for the periods. Everything matches right to the dollar in the 4th period because that is calculated by using the CG & QD Worksheet. So it is the way that Turbo is parsing the income in each period that is the problem.
It makes it even more aggravating that the instruction on line 14 says simply "Figure your tax on the amount on line 13". But it doesn't really mean that because the amounts are already there and it won't let you alter them. In nearly all other cases where Turbo has entered a number you can simply right click on the number and it will take you to its source. But here it just highlights it. There no way I have found to force it to show me how it did the calculation.
To make it further obscure, the amounts for Cap Gains and Qualified Dividends are shown in the table between lines 13 & 14, which further hides how the calculation in line 14 was performed. The implication is that you should use those as-is for each period (i.e., no smoothing), but that algorithm doesn't produce the result that Turbo displays in line 14. <sigh>
Problem solved! TurboTax calculates the amounts on line 14 of Form 2210AI using the "Qualified Dividends and Capital Gain Tax Worksheet" 4 times! Once for each period. It shows you the worksheet only for the 4th period, but it is using it for each period with the appropriate amounts for each period.
I finally solved it by copying the logic from the QD & CG Worksheet into 4 Excel Worksheets and entering the data from line 13 of Form 2210AI, and the table below it, for each period. With that I am now able to reproduce the results of Turbo exactly!
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