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keithp1
Returning Member

Refinance - balance on date paid off

Turbo tax asks for the balance on the date the original loan was paid off.  Is this the balance BEFORE payoff (amount paid off) or AFTER ($0).

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ReneeM7122
Level 9

Refinance - balance on date paid off

If you paid off the loan in 2020, then put $0.  If you paid off the loan in 2021 (this year), then you will enter your final principal balance (your balance on 12/31/20).

 

 

keithp1
Returning Member

Refinance - balance on date paid off

I have a rental property.  Do I record the security deposit as income? Where?  How do I report once returned?

DaveF1006
Expert Alumni

Refinance - balance on date paid off

According to this link from IRS.gov, if  a security deposit is to be used as a final payment of rent, it is advance rent. Include it in your income when you receive it. However, don't include a security deposit in your income if you may be required to return it to the tenant at the end of the lease.

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Carl
Level 15

Refinance - balance on date paid off

 A few clarifications needed here.

. If you paid off the loan in 2021 (this year),

Now why would the 2020 tax program be asking about a loan paid off in 2021? It wouldn't.

If you paid off the loan in 2020, the balance on the payoff date would be ZERO. But, on your 1098 for that *old* loan, box 2 shows the balance on Jan 1, 2020 and that's the amount you will enter for box 2 on the screen where you enter the 1098 information.

Do I record the security deposit as income?

No. The security deposit is not your money. It belongs to the tenant and will "always" belong to the tenant until you make a legal claim for it. A security deposit in money held "in escrow", and the holder of that money has no legal claim to it, until such time they actually file for such claim. 

In the year you make legal claim for it, which is typically the year the tenant vacates the property, then it becomes reportable and taxable income to you if your legal claim finds in your favor. If you make no legal claim to it, then that's because you returned the security deposit to the tenant upon their vacating the property under the terms of the lease agreement.

Dabennys
New Member

Refinance - balance on date paid off

Did you ever get an answer to this question?

Is this the Balance before or after?

Thank you!

John

DianeW777
Expert Alumni

Refinance - balance on date paid off

As stated by @Carl, if the loan was paid off in 2020, the balance on the date of pay-off would be zero. 

 

Keep in mind that the amount in Box 2, Form 1098, is actually the amount due on the mortgage as of January 1st. This would not be the balance referred to as the pay-off amount.

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