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TT seems to have a cliff for the Premium Tax Credit on 8962 instead of a phase-out

Maybe they extended the phase-out after that form was released?  Will there be another update before the end of the year?

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TT seems to have a cliff for the Premium Tax Credit on 8962 instead of a phase-out

Click on the REVIEW tab to see which forms in your return are not yet ready for efiling and the ESTIMATED date they will be ready.

 

 

 

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TT seems to have a cliff for the Premium Tax Credit on 8962 instead of a phase-out

here are links to form 8962 for 2022 and instructions. 

if line 5 (household income as % of federal poverty line) is over 400% line 7 is .085

 

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i8962.pdf https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8962.pdf 

TT seems to have a cliff for the Premium Tax Credit on 8962 instead of a phase-out

@qofmiwok if you look in Forms VIew, you should see in big red letters DO NOT FILE and there is an error posted with the form stating that  is has not been approved or released (by the IRS) at this time.

 

That is triue for a number of forms in Turbo Tax at this time of year.  So to answer your question, there will be an update to this form as you can not file it - via e-file or paper at this time. 

 

All the red exclamation points in the left column of Forms View must be resolved before you can efile. Turbo Tax will do that on all the 'DO NOT FILE" forms (normally by the end of January)

TT seems to have a cliff for the Premium Tax Credit on 8962 instead of a phase-out

Click on the REVIEW tab to see which forms in your return are not yet ready for efiling and the ESTIMATED date they will be ready.

 

 

 

TT seems to have a cliff for the Premium Tax Credit on 8962 instead of a phase-out

Thanks. I see several of the forms won't be ready until 1/19 :(

TT seems to have a cliff for the Premium Tax Credit on 8962 instead of a phase-out

@qofmiwok - you can't file until late January in any event.........

TT seems to have a cliff for the Premium Tax Credit on 8962 instead of a phase-out

A LOT of the program is not functional yet mostly due to the IRS not being ready ... they have not yet issued all of the  final forms or instructions for many things so the software companies "punt" for right now until the true game can commence ...

 These first releases of the program are usually very buggy and will require MANY updates before it becomes fully functional which usually will not happen until late January or sometime in February depending on the forms you need.  So patience will be needed as the IRS has not even announced when the 2022 filing season will start yet. 

 

The tax programs this year have had to be reworked (again like last year) by every tax software company due to the changes above since it is not just as simple as " adding a form or worksheet " since many of the forms interwork with each other ... lots of moving parts to coordinate.   And before they can get final approval they need to be tested and approved by the IRS who themselves are not up to speed yet ... this is an impossible situation that will require patience on all fronts. Even my professional program has indicated that they will be delayed in getting out the first version this year and I appreciate them waiting until they have a working product when it is pushed out.

 

 

Although TurboTax may  allow you to e-filed some returns as early as 1/4/23 (IF the forms in your return are ready for filing … see info below)   they are NOT actually sent to the IRS.  TurboTax stores those early filed returns in a holding “POOL”   until the IRS opens for business and “drains the pool”  for processing ...   only then will you get an e-mail telling you if the return was accepted or rejected by the IRS.  

Only the simplest returns can be transmitted to TurboTax early.    Some forms will not be finalized until Jan 25 and some later than that.

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1908854-forms-availability-table-for-turbotax-federal-products-exc...

Why does TurboTax allow early filing?  Because their competitors do - It is a marketing ploy to capture market share.

Filing early with TurboTax before the IRS opens  is a really BAD IDEA for many reasons...

1) If you discover something that is wrong on your return, receive a W-2 that is different, receive some other tax document that was not on the return that you filed then there is NOTHING that you can do about it other than wait to see if the IRS accepts or rejects the return after they open.  If rejected you can correct and file again, but if accepted then the only remedy is to amend which can take at the very least 4 months to process.

2) You must remember to check back after the IRS opens (or check for an e-mail) to confirm that the IRS has accepted or rejected the return.  If rejected, then it was never filed at all and must be corrected and re-filed.  Every year many taxpayers that file early, forget to check back and only discover months later that they never actually filed because if was rejected by the IRS but they had forgotten about checking back after filing with TurboTax.

3) While the IRS does conduct some pre-opening tests and does accept some returns early (ONLY for TESTING purposes), they will not actually  process those until after the official opening date.  The reason they do testing is to discover any problems with their systems.  A couple of years ago a test went bad and several thousand "test" returns were lost.   The IRS was able to recover those but it delayed refunds for some by months.

There is no real advantage to file before the IRS opens  but there are several disadvantages to doing  so.

When will my forms be ready?

Historically, IRS tax forms start becoming available in January, with a few stragglers (most notably Form 1040X) getting finalized in February.

State tax forms can become available for filing any time between December and late February, depending on the state and the tax form.

For specific forms and dates, refer to the Forms Availability Table for your TurboTax product, see the related information below.

                                                   

Can I Still Work On My Return Before My Forms are Ready?

Yes, according to the following:

Federal Taxes
You can still work on your return and finish most of it. Once your forms become available, we’ll create the forms and include all of your info.

You’ll only be able to e-file or print your return once the forms are available.

While you’re working on your return, we’ll ask if you want to receive email updates when your forms become available.

State Taxes 
If your forms aren’t available, you’ll get a message asking you to return once they become available.

While you’re working on your return, you’ll have a chance to let us know you want to receive email updates when your forms become available.

 

 

IRS forms availability table for TurboTax individual (personal) tax products

State forms availability table for TurboTax individual (personal) tax products

 

 

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