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Tim S
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Foreign tax credit reduction

 I am having difficulty getting Turbo tax to compute  the foreign tax credit reduction ( Form 1116 line 12).  When computing the reduction, a ratio needs to be computed.  This ratio is computed on the worksheet for Form 1116 line 12 a,1-9. 

 

My understanding is that when there is a married couple, each with foreign wages, a ratio for each spouse needs to be computed.  Then separate reductions are computed for each spouse.  Then the 2 reductions (one for each spouse) are added together to get the total that would be on line 12 of Form 1116.

 

How do you get Turbo Tax to compute the ratios separately for each spouse?  I have tried adding additional copies of Form 1116 -one for each spouse - without success.

 

Thanks for any tips. 

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Foreign tax credit reduction

Here is a copy of TT’s guidance pertaining to the “Reduction in foreign taxes section” in the f1116 worksheet.

 

Lines 12a1 through 12a5:

If you excluded some or all of your foreign income on Form 2555, Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, the foreign taxes you paid must be reduced by the amount of taxes that relate to the foreign earned income that has been excluded on Form 2555. Lines 12a1 through 12a5 are used to determine the allocation ratio to be used in apportioning the amount of taxes applicable to excluded income.

The program performs the computations on lines 12a3, 12a4, 12a5 only for the General category of foreign income (i.e., if box b is checked at the top of this worksheet). Lines 12a1 and 12a2 must be entered when applicable.

If you excluded foreign income on Form 2555, enter on line 12a1 the amount of foreign earned income excluded (Form 2555, line 45) reduced by any itemized deductions that relate to the foreign income excluded.

Enter your total foreign earned income for the year on line 12a2. This is the total foreign earned income from Form 2555 (both copies), line 26, reduced by deductible expenses allocable to that foreign earned income.

NOTE: If you are subject to the alternative minimum tax, review line 12 on the Form 1116 AMT Worksheet for any applicable entries.

Line 12a6:

Enter the amount of any foreign taxes paid in the current year that related to a prior year's earned income in this category. The program will compute the reduction in taxes based on the prior year exclusion ratio, which is determined by the ratio on line 12a7a to line 12a7b. The reduction in current year taxes attributable to a prior year's excluded earned income will appear on line 12a8.

NOTE: If you are subject to the alternative minimum tax, review line 12 on the Form 1116 AMT Worksheet for any applicable entries.

Line 12a7a:

Enter the amount of net foreign earned income excluded in the year the foreign earned income was earned for which the taxes shown on line 12a6 were paid. The program uses this number as the numerator of the reduction ratio for foreign taxes relating to income earned in a prior year.

Line 12a7b:

Enter the amount of total net foreign income earned in the year for which the taxes shown on line 12a6 were paid. The program uses this number as the denominator of the reduction ratio for foreign taxes relating to income earned in a prior year.

Line 12a7:

The ratio shown here represents the percentage of foreign earned income excluded in the prior year for which the taxes on line 12a6 were paid. This ratio is applied to the line 12a6 taxes to arrive at the total reduction for prior year foreign earned income on line 12a8.

Line 12a9, text line:

Enter an explanation for any adjustment to the calculation for reduction in foreign taxes allocable to excluded income.

Line 12a:

The amount shown here is the reduction in foreign taxes attributed to the foreign earned income excluded for 2019. This amount is added to the amount on lines 12b and 12c and the total is transferred to line 12 of the corresponding copy of Form 1116.

NOTE: If you are subject to the alternative minimum tax, review line 12 on the Form 1116 AMT Worksheet for any applicable entries.

Line 12b:

Any reduction in foreign taxes entered on a Schedule K-1 will flow to the first amount field on line 12b. See Schedule K-1 reduction in foreign taxes for more information. If there are additional amounts to reduce foreign taxes, use the next two fields or Line 12c if the reduction is due to participation in international boycott operations.

Line 12b, description and amount:

Enter the description of any other reduction in foreign taxes available for credit and the amount of the reduction. See the Government Instructions for Form 1116, line 12, for additional examples of foreign tax reduction requirements.

NOTE: If you are subject to the alternative minimum tax, review line 12 on the Form 1116 AMT Worksheet for any applicable entries.

Line 12c:

If the foreign taxes must be reduced due to participation in international boycott operations (other than any reductions reported on a Schedule K-1 which flow to line 12b), enter the reduction for this category of income here.

 

 

KarenJ2
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Foreign tax credit reduction

You may try to input your country twice and each of you go through the screens and input your taxes separately and then the ratio separately.

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Tim S
Returning Member

Foreign tax credit reduction

Thanks for your response.  Unfortunately, I still have questions.

The following relates to the worksheet for Form 1116.

 

1)  The problem is in the ratio computation in lines 12a1-5.  The taxpayer has earned foreign income over the exclusion amount of 105,900 and the spouse does not.  Again my understanding is that the ratio should be computed separately for EACH taxpayer.  Then each ratio is multiplied by the taxes paid by each taxpayer.  Then the TWO reductions are combined.  Below is an example of my understanding followed  by the Turbo tax computation which combines the incomes of both taxpayers and computes a SINGLE ratio.  You will see the results are NOT the same.

 

 

 

      
 TaxpayerSpouse   
L12a1            127,000            76,000   
L12a2            172,000            76,000   
Ratio0.73841   
      
Taxes Paid               14,000              4,000   
      
Reduction Taxes Paid X Ratio   
                10,337              4,000       14,337Reduction Amount
      
Turbo Tax computation    
      
 TaxpayerSpouseTotal  
L12a1            127,000            76,000     203,000  
L12a2            172,000            76,000     248,000  
Ratio  0.8185  
      
Taxes Paid               14,000              4,000       18,000  
Reduction Taxes Paid X Ratio       14,734Reduction Amount
      
 Difference              397  

 

2)  Also after selection box d (at the top) there is a boxed area with a drop-down option.  What at the circumstances when: Neither, Taxpayer, Spouse, or Both should be checked?

 

Thanks .  Any help is appreciated.

Tim S
Returning Member

Foreign tax credit reduction

Thanks for your response Karen.  I did try your suggestion.  Unfortunately, the ratios are NOT computed separately.  There is only one column in the worksheet for computing the ratio.

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