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Itemized Deductions are higher, but return shows standard deduction. No taxes owed either way

It does not really matter because I don't owe any tax, but my itemized deductions are higher than the standard deduction, yet Turbo tax is using the standard deduction and no schedule A is included with the return.

 

Actual tax calculation is a few hundred, but I have an energy credit of $2000 which is mostly going to waste, as is my $500 dependent credit so none of it really matters.  I am just trying to figure out why.

 

Guessing that everyone is really busy and might not want to bother with this question.  But if you happen to know..............

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DawnC
Employee Tax Expert

Itemized Deductions are higher, but return shows standard deduction. No taxes owed either way

Energy Credits, nor the $500 Family credit have any effect on your standard or itemized deductions.   The standard deduction is a flat amount and your itemized deductions are the total of certain deductions on Schedule A.   If TurboTax did not generate Schedule A, your standard deduction is higher.      Example - if your standard deduction is $15,750 (single), you won't itemize unless the following items total more than $15,750.     Most common Itemized Deductions:

 

Medical and Dental out of pocket - only the amount over 7.5% of Adjusted Gross Income counts. +

SALT Taxes - State & Local tax OR Sales Tax, not both. +

Home Mortgage Interest  +

Charitable Contributions - limitations apply.   And there are other less common ones, see the link.

 

Once your tax is reduced to zero, non-refundable credits (energy credits and the $500 credit are both non-refundable) will not generate a refund.   This means if Line 24 is zero, you won't benefit from those credits.   Refundable credits can only reduce your tax to zero, it can't make it go negative.  

 

 

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Itemized Deductions are higher, but return shows standard deduction. No taxes owed either way

I understand all that, but without regard to the credits, my itemized deductions are $32,000++ which is higher than the standard deduction, but it is taking the standard deduction, also giving me a QBI subtraction (sch E rental activities), and using my credits to result in zero tax.

 

If I force the itemized deduction, i don't get the QBI deduction or the credits.

 

In either case I owe -0-.  Just wondering why it is doing it.

DaveF1006
Employee Tax Expert

Itemized Deductions are higher, but return shows standard deduction. No taxes owed either way

It depends. TurboTax uses its “Best Tax Result” logic to review your Qualified Business Income (QBI) and Energy Credits. That’s why the software may be setting aside your higher itemized deductions—it’s looking for the option that saves you more.

 

The QBI deduction (Section 199A) for rental activity is typically 20% of your qualified business income. But there’s an important limit: your QBI deduction can’t be more than 20% of your total taxable income (before the QBI deduction).

 

  • If you itemize ($32,000): Your taxable income goes down. If it drops too much, your QBI deduction also gets smaller.
  • If you take the standard deduction ($31,500): Your taxable income is a little higher, which may let you claim a bigger QBI deduction.

TurboTax checks both options. If the extra QBI deduction from taking the standard deduction is worth more than the $500 difference in your itemized deductions, the software will pick the standard deduction since it leads to a lower tax bill.

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Itemized Deductions are higher, but return shows standard deduction. No taxes owed either way

Thank you, that kind of makes sense.  It also occurred to me, as I have not finished my state return, that if I am getting a state refund, part of it might end up being taxable in 2026, if I itemized in 2025.

 

I guess I will just go with the turbotax calculated standard deduction.

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