My son, 25 years old, received ACA premium tax credits for 2025 for his own plan(my husband and I are both on Medicare)
He was a full-time student that we supported during the majority of the year with living and tuition expenses. Unfortunately, his summer job fell through so he had no income other than some interest and dividends for around $1000.
He received a 1095-form. If we claim him as a dependent, it looks like in TT that we have to pay back those premium tax credits for him, given our income. Is that correct?
Is one option that we do not claim him as a dependent and he files his own return and enters the 1095-A form on his own return and not on ours? That way , we would not have to pay back those credits?
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@brommabo either way, it will have to be paid back.
He will have to check the box stating he CAN BE claimed by someone else. And dependents are not eligible for PTC on their own tax return; you are mistaken that he would not have to repay the PTC. Dependents who take out an ACA policy are not eligible for PTC.
So whether you claim him or not claim him, the PTC will need to be repaid. Better to claim him and at least get the $500 other dependent credit to offset some of the PTC repayment.
read the last FAQ:
https://www.healthcare.gov/income-and-household-information/household-size/
@brommabo wrote:
He received a 1095-form. If we claim him as a dependent, it looks like in TT that we have to pay back those premium tax credits for him, given our income. Is that correct?
Is one option that we do not claim him as a dependent and he files his own return and enters the 1095-A form on his own return and not on ours? That way , we would not have to pay back those credits?
If you claim him as a dependent, the Premium Tax Credit will be based on YOUR Household Income. Depending on what that is, yes, it could result in a repayment.
If it was assumed he would NOT be a dependent when he signed up for insurance and you do not actually claim him as a dependent, the 1095-A goes on his tax return. However, he needs to indicate that he CAN be claimed as a dependent. That will disqualify the Premium Tax Credit, but due to his low income, the repayment will be limited. With that being said, I think TurboTax will NOT allow that situation, so he may need to manually fill out the forms and mail his tax return.
<< If he had made more than $5200 last year, he would not have been a qualifying relative, i.e. a dependent? And then he could have filed his own return and could have claimed the PTC credits, correct?>>
that is correct. As a 25 year old, if he earned more than $5200, you could not claim him as a dependent.
<<That will disqualify the Premium Tax Credit, but due to his low income, the repayment will be limited.>>
but if he is a dependent or can be a dependent, they the WHOLE THING would require repayment. A dependent is simply not eligible for PTC.
And if someone CAN claim him but doesn't, then he is part of their household in any event and it all needs to be repaid - that is my understanding. You can't avoid the PTC repayment just by not claiming the dependent.
How would he manually fill out the form - How would he know how much of the credit to pay back i any on a manual form? His income from interest and dividends was about $1000.00 I think.
It would be better if he claimed it. Does not seem right that we would have to cover the whole credit when his summer job fell through...
@brommabo not sure what you mean by a "manual form". If you mean that he is completing his taxes by hand, then form 1095-A would be used to complete form 8962 and that form maps to form 1040.
While, it may not seem "right", it's the law. Talk to your Congressman 😉
It would be best if you claimed him since you can and YOU enter form 1095-A on YOUR tax return. That way you get the $500 other dependent credit.
@NCperson wrote:
but if he is a dependent or can be a dependent, they the WHOLE THING would require repayment.
And if someone CAN claim him but doesn't, then he is part of their household in any event and it all needs to be repaid - that is my understanding. You can't avoid the PTC repayment just by not claiming the dependent.
Where do you see that the repayment limitation would not apply?
When signing up for insurance, if the kid had attested he would NOT be a dependent (and had reason to believe that would be true), it goes on the kids return if he is not actually claimed. See Regulation §1.36B-4(a)(1)(C).
(C) Responsibility for advance credit payments for an individual not reported on any taxpayer's return. If advance credit payments are made for coverage of an individual who is not included in any taxpayer's family, as defined in §1.36B-1(d), the taxpayer who attested to the Exchange to the intention to include such individual in the taxpayer's family as part of the advance credit payment eligibility determination for coverage of the individual must reconcile the advance credit payments.
@AmeliesUncle and I would prefer to identify a IRS or Healthcare.gov source, but this is a non-for-profit website.....
For example, let’s look at Bob, who is caring for his uninsured mother, Marie. Bob provides more than half of Marie’s support and Marie has no income. Marie qualifies as Bob’s dependent. He wants to enroll Marie in a marketplace plan, but Bob’s income is too high to qualify for marketplace subsidies. Even if Bob chooses not to claim Marie as a dependent on his tax return, Marie is not eligible to claim herself on a separate tax return. Because Marie qualifies as Bob’s dependent—whether or not he claims her on his tax return—she cannot qualify for PTC on her own. If Bob claims Marie as a dependent at tax time, any APTC Marie received during the year will be reconciled on Bob’s tax return based on his income and may need to be repaid if his income exceeds 400 percent of poverty.
Any maybe you are reacting to my statement of the "whole thing". Let me clarify.
What I meant was if the dependent files a tax return with form 1095A, and correctly checks the box that they CAN be claimed by someone else, then the entire PTC would have to be repaid. And that would occur whether or not the dependent is actually claimed by someone else.
If the parents file the 1095A form with their tax return (whether or not they claim the dependent), then the repayment is subject to the parent's income, which may or not require repayment.
OK, thanks for your feedback. Looks like it is the best choice to claim him as a dependent and get the $500 dependent credit at least. Thanks.
🙂
One more question. We will claim him as a dependent on our report and report the 1095A under his SSN. Should he, on his own return(which he will check that he is claimed as a dependent by us) also report the 1095-A?
@brommabo he does not report the form 1095-A. only you do. He checks the box that be CAN BE claimed by someone else.
if he reports the 1095-A, the software will require him to pay back the entire PTC; you don't want that outcome.
@NCperson wrote:dependent files a tax return with form 1095A, and correctly checks the box that they CAN be claimed by someone else, then the entire PTC would have to be repaid. And that would occur whether or not the dependent is actually claimed by someone else.
If the parents file the 1095A form with their tax return (whether or not they claim the dependent), then the repayment is subject to the parent's income, which may or not require repayment.
The Regulation that I cited says the person that is ELIGIBLE to be claimed as a dependent, but NOT ACTUALLY claimed reconciles the 1095-A on their tax return (in the situation the the OP is asking about, where the dependent had THOUGHT they would NOT be a dependent when signing up for insurance).
You are right the the dependent (although not claimed) does not qualify for the Premium Tax Credit. But I've seen nothing that indicates the Repayment Limit would not apply, so the repayment would be limited to $375 (see "Table 5" on page 18 of the 8962 Instructions).
If the dependent falls under the rules in the Regulation that I cited, the parents would NOT enter the 1095-A on their own tax return if they did not actually claim him.
You are right that if when he or the parents signed him up for insurance and he had indicated he WOULD be a dependent of his parents, then the parents would need to reconcile the 1095-A on their return regardless if they claimed him or not. But that isn't the scenario that the OP presented.
Thanks. We went back and checked his application for 2025 and he indicated he would NOT be a dependent for 2025.
So is your thought is that we do not claim him on our return as a dependent, and we do not report the 1095-A on our return AND
he on his return checks the box that he could be claimed as a dependent and reports the 1095-A on his return and pays the $375?
But you also said this cannot be done in Turbo Tax without his return being rejected but he would have to file manually?
Thanks
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