Data from 1099-DIV:
Qualified Dividends - 29,821
Foreign Taxes Paid - 766
Foreign Income - 5,313
Qualified Portion of Foreign Income - 4,994
Form 1040 Line 15 - 41,168
TurboTax defaults Line 18 of Form 1116 to 41,168 but based on IRS instructions for the form, the value for line 18 can be calculated using a worksheet because I have qualified dividends. If I follow the worksheet instructions, the value should be 41,168 - 29,821 = 11,347 which yields the maximum foreign tax credit.
Kindly explain why TurboTax does not use the worksheet calculation, or if it can be triggered, or if the default value may be replaced with a manually calculated value, and how.
Thank you for any responses. I appreciate your help!
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From the info, no "adjustments" were made on line 1a on qualified dividends because they are less than 20K.
Thus no "adjustments" can be used for line 18. This is from the instructions under the heading "Adjustment exception."
Thanks rogge1722 for your reply, I appreciate it. I have a follow up question, kindly bear with me if my understanding falls a little short.
While I see in the instructions that I qualify for the Adjustment Exception, my understanding is that I can "elect" to avail of the exception or still choose to complete the line 18 worksheet since the numbers on Qualified Dividends and Capital Gain Tax Worksheet satisfy the two requirements for line 18 adjustment:
1. Line 5 (=11,347) of your Qualified Dividends and Capital Gain Tax Worksheet is greater than zero, and
2. Line 23 (=1,133) of your Qualified Dividends and Capital Gain Tax Worksheet is less than line 24 (=4,477) of that worksheet.
Does qualifying for the adjustment exception make it then mandatory thus nullifying my qualification for the line 18 adjustment in the first place?
Thank you rogge1722 and to anyone who may be able to help with my confusion. For me, IRS official instructions have never been that easy to understand. :(
If Line 1a is adjusted, then line 18 is adjusted. If line 1a is not adjusted, then line 18 is not adjusted.
From page 9 of the instructions, line 1a would be adjusted unless you qualify for the exception. By default, TT will not make any adjustments unless they are mandatory. You can override TT but that might require using the downloaded version using forms mode.
Thank you for the explanation, rogge1722. I understand now why TT does not use the worksheet for line18 in my case.
Unfortunately, I have been using the online version for years now, not the downloaded version. Is there perhaps anywhere I can make an entry online to "trick" TT into thinking I made an adjustment to line 1a without actually changing the value of line 1a?
I know this is a long shot but might as well try, it's worth more than $600 in taxes to me.
Thank you again!
I am not aware of any workaround to make an adjustment without actually changing the value of 1a.
Thank you rogge1722 for your patience. I had to try. I will do a little bit more digging to see if I have other options.
@CNOakland I think you may have missed the application of a multiplier in your Line 18 worksheet: where you state "the value should be 41,168 - 29,821 = 11,347", I think you likely need to apply a 0.5946 multiplier to the 29,821 (assuming those dividends belong in the 15% dividends category, on line 8). So the math would become 41,168 - (29,821 * 0.5946) = 23,436, which won't be nearly so helpful.
Also, as others have pointed out, you can't do the Line 18 adjustment unless you also adjust line 1a in a similar fashion. So just like we removed 59.46% of the worldwide qualified dividends from line 18, we have to remove 59.46% of the foreign qualified dividends from line 1a. So we subtract (4,994 * 0.5946) from 5,313, leaving only 2,344 on line 1a.
If you think about the relative size of the changes to line 1a and line 18, you'll see the problem: 1a went down by a bigger percentage than 18. Since 1a feeds into the numerator and 18 is the denominator of the ratio that determines the maximum foreign tax credit, these changes are going to reduce the foreign tax credit rather than increase it. So I think you are going to be better off using the adjustment exception.
In general the adjustments help when your foreign income is taxed at a higher average rate than your US income. So for example if your foreign income is wage or pension income taxable at say 22%, while your US-sourced income is primarily dividends taxable at 15%, then you'll get a higher foreign tax credit after doing the adjustments. But its more common for US taxpayers to have their ordinary income be US-sourced, and their foreign income to consist primarily of low-tax dividends. In that situation, the adjustments reduce the tax credit, so it's helpful to have an exception available for foreign dividends less than $20,000.
btw... if you're wondering where that odd 59.46% adjustment factor comes from (like I did!) it's based on the ratio of the tax rates 15% and 37%. It's used to answer the question "How many dollars of ordinary income generate the same amount of tax as a dollar of dividend income". Example: you have $100 of dividends taxed at 15% so you pay $15 in tax. To generate the same $15 in tax from ordinary income at a 37% tax rate, you would need $100 * 15/37 = $40.54 of ordinary income, which is 59.46% less than $100. So the 59.46% haircut applied to dividend income is an attempt to make it equivalent to ordinary income, in terms of its associated tax liability. That's probably oversimplified, but I've found it a helpful way to think about why these adjustments are made.
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