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johnhou92
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New York income tax for Texas remote employee

I live in Texas and I was recently hired by a New York company. To my surprise I have to pay NY State income tax. Will any of these scenarios help me to be excluded from paying NY state income tax?

  1. My company has an office in San Francisco - on paper, can I be placed as an employee of the SF office and continue to work remotely in Texas to allow me to be exempt from NY tax. 
  2. My company purchases coworking (like at WeWork) space for me to go to work every day in my hometown in Texas. I'm not working from home and I'm working from an office space provided by my company in Texas. Will this trigger the rule where I'm only taxed NY income tax on the days I visit the NY office? They expect me to visit the NY office about 6 days a year. 

Any other ideas or advice is greatly appreciated!

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New York income tax for Texas remote employee

Discuss these options with your employer. They are responsible for withholding state income tax and will be familiar with your situation.

 

State tax withholding for remote employees can be very facts and circumstances based, so two situations that may look identical can be different.

 

Convenience of the employer

 

New York follows the so-called “convenience of the employer” test. Simply stated, it means you are subject to NY tax is you are working remotely for your convenience and exempt if you are working remotely for your employer’s convenience.

 

New York is very aggressive about auditing telecommuters. The state began a pre-audit program of holding refunds until targeted taxpayers filled out a sheet showing days worked inside and outside the state.

 

That said, both options you mention may provide relief. 

 

San Francisco

 

If your “home office” is no longer New York, you probably would not pay New York tax. However, in order to escape NY tax, you probably would have to report to someone in San Francisco and perform work that is connected with that office.

 

If you perform work for the New York office and your manager is there, you may still be subject to NY state income tax.

 

WeWork

 

New York has a multi-factor test to determine whether remote employees are New York employees. Among the factors are: (1) the home office is a requirement or condition of employment, (2) the employer does not provide the employee with designated office space or other regular accommodations at one of its regular places of business, and (3) employer reimburses expenses for the home office.

 

The fact that your employer pays for and requires you to go to a WeWork office seems to suggest you are working out of a “bona fide” office in Texas and should not pay NY income tax.

 

For more information on the so-called “convenience of the employer” tests, see TSB-M-06(5)I : New York Tax Treatment of Nonresidents and Part-Year Residents Application of the Con....

 

You would owe NY income tax for the days you spent working in NY.

New York income tax for Texas remote employee

It will be up to you and your tax advisor to pick a position and develop the proof you would need in case of audit.  If your company is providing an office in Texas, that certainly sounds like you are working in Texas at their convenience rather than your own, but that's only my opinion.

 

It sounds like you have already read the relevant tax rules, so what you are really asking is, do your specific circumstances meet the right tests.  And really, no one can decide that except you, and maybe a professional tax advisor hired by you.  No one on this board will go to an NY tax audit with you, if NY disagrees with your interpretation. 

 

You will owe NY a non-resident return to report and pay NY tax on that portion of your income that is earned while you are living or working in the state, but it sounds like that will be less than 3% of your overall salary. 

TomD8
Level 15

New York income tax for Texas remote employee

This reference details New York's criteria for determining if an out-of-state workplace is a "bona-fide office":

https://www.tax.ny.gov/pdf/memos/income/m06_5i.pdf

 

If your workplace in Texas satisfies those criteria, and you're working there as an employment requirement, then the income you earn there is not subject to NY taxation.

 

Income you earn by (physically) working inside New York is subject to NY taxation.  So you should keep track of those days.

**Answers are correct to the best of my ability but do not constitute tax or legal advice.

New York income tax for Texas remote employee

Awesome @TomD8! The confusion apparently stems from @johnhou92's employer withholding New York state income tax while also providing an outside office, which appears to be a contradiction.

Hal_Al
Level 15

New York income tax for Texas remote employee

@SundayInSalem  said "The confusion apparently stems from johnhou92's  employer withholding New York state income tax while also providing an outside office, which appears to be a contradiction".

 

I don't think there's any confusion.  The WeWork space, alone, does not satisfy the convenience of the employer test.  Based on info provided,  @johnhou92 is working in TX, for his own convenience, and his employer is correctly withholding NY tax.

arellim1942
Returning Member

New York income tax for Texas remote employee

What about the case where I was hired because I live closer to some out of state clients?  The company is in Rochester NY and has IT clients in the Maryland, and Virginia area.  I live in PA, but about 10 miles north of the MD/PA border.  

A BIG factor in why I was hired, and I work 100% remote, is that when I need to go on site it is much closer by a factor of 3 for me to go, than for someone else from NY.  Does this meet the remote test?

New York income tax for Texas remote employee


@arellim1942 wrote:

What about the case where I was hired because I live closer to some out of state clients?  The company is in Rochester NY and has IT clients in the Maryland, and Virginia area.  I live in PA, but about 10 miles north of the MD/PA border.  

A BIG factor in why I was hired, and I work 100%, is that when I need to go on site it is much closer by a factor of 3 for me to go, than for someone else from NY.  Does this meet the remote test?


I think I need that job as I live in VA and have family in Rochester.

 

You probably satisfy the convenience of the employer test, but I can't give you legal advice.  Basically, is the company saying "we prefer you to work on site but its acceptable to work remotely" or is the company saying "we prefer you to work remotely because its better for our business".  

 

You just need to document the situation in case NY tries to send you a tax bill.  To start with, you want to make sure the company withholds PA taxes and not NY taxes.  The less NY knows about you, the less likely they are to ask questions. 

 

 

 

arellim1942
Returning Member

New York income tax for Texas remote employee

Ok great !, I'm going to talk to my HR department, as the difference between PA and NY taxes is about 3%

New York income tax for Texas remote employee

@arellim1942 A New York State Department of Taxation and Finance memo (TSB-M-06(5)I ) cites a home office being near specialised facilities as a primary factor for an employee working from home for the 'convenience of the employer' rather than the 'convenience of the employee'.

 

"For example, if the employee’s duties require the use of a test track to test new cars, and a test track is not available at the employer’s offices in New York City, but is available near the employee’s home, then the home office will meet this factor."

 

You may wish to show the memo to your HR Department if they are unfamiliar with it and see what they say. Facts and circumstances are different in every case.

 

Super champ @Opus 17 offers awesome advice.

mirmahdi
New Member

New York income tax for Texas remote employee

I am in the opposite situation: I live in Upstate New York, and I have recently been hired by an employer in Texas. Am I subject to NY tax withholding, or TX tax withholding, or both?! I haven't received any advise from our HR in this regard yet, but a financial tax specialists is asking me for fill a tax withholding form that I have no knowledge about the correct choice(s) that I have to make.

Hal_Al
Level 15

New York income tax for Texas remote employee

Q.  I live in Upstate New York, and I have recently been hired by an employer in Texas and will work from home. Am I subject to NY tax withholding, or TX tax withholding, or both?

A. New York, sine that is where you physically work.  Besides, TX does not have an income tax.

New York income tax for Texas remote employee


@mirmahdi wrote:

I am in the opposite situation: I live in Upstate New York, and I have recently been hired by an employer in Texas. Am I subject to NY tax withholding, or TX tax withholding, or both?! I haven't received any advise from our HR in this regard yet, but a financial tax specialists is asking me for fill a tax withholding form that I have no knowledge about the correct choice(s) that I have to make.


You always owe state income tax on all your worldwide income to the state where you physically live, and/or where you are physically located when you perform the job.  That pays for the roads, the cops, and everything else you benefit from by living in that location.

 

Sometimes, you may also owe income tax to another state, especially if you travel and work temporarily in other states.  But that does not apply to you in this case. 

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