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    <title>topic Re: Overtime Validation Bug (Desktop Version) in Tax law changes</title>
    <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-law-changes/discussion/re-overtime-validation-bug-desktop-version/01/3849046#M2317</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Box 1 of the W-2 is the correct box to use when evaluating overtime. &amp;nbsp;Box 3 is Social Security wages. &amp;nbsp;However, I'd like to understand a couple of things.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;You're a dual-role employee&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;This W-2 is 100% overtime.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;You should have a second W-2 with the same EIN for the straight-time portion of your dual role?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;Combine the two W-2's that are from the same EIN.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The IRS will recognise the two EINs as the same and do the same calculation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This will resolve the 33,3% overtime issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Contact us again with any additional details.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2026 21:16:25 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>JohnB5677</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-03-22T21:16:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Overtime Validation Bug (Desktop Version)</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-law-changes/discussion/overtime-validation-bug-desktop-version/01/3846870#M2311</link>
      <description>&lt;H3&gt;Bug Report: Schedule 1-A Validation Error (Pre-Tax Distortion)&lt;/H3&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Issue:&lt;/STRONG&gt; The e-file validation script for the &lt;STRONG&gt;Section 225 Overtime Deduction (Schedule 1-A)&lt;/STRONG&gt; is triggering a false-positive "Reasonableness" error by incorrectly using &lt;STRONG&gt;W-2 Box 1&lt;/STRONG&gt; as the denominator for its calculations instead of &lt;STRONG&gt;W-2 Box 3&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I spent nearly 2 hours on the phone today with technical support. I am not 100% confident this bug is being followed up on.&amp;nbsp; My&amp;nbsp;Diagnostic Token is: [removed]-96664364&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Technical Details:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The Conflict:&lt;/STRONG&gt; The software assumes a "Qualified Overtime Premium" cannot exceed 1/3 of total wages. My entry is exactly 1/3 of my &lt;STRONG&gt;Gross Wages (Box 3)&lt;/STRONG&gt;, but it appears as 46% of my &lt;STRONG&gt;Taxable Wages (Box 1)&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The Root Cause:&lt;/STRONG&gt; The validation logic fails to account for &lt;STRONG&gt;Box 12 pre-tax contributions&lt;/STRONG&gt; (e.g., 403b/401k). These contributions "shrink" Box 1, creating a mathematical distortion that falsely flags a perfectly legal 1.5x overtime premium ratio.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The Impact:&lt;/STRONG&gt; This error prevents e-filing for employees whose overtime work is significant and whose pre-tax retirement contributions are high, even when the data matches the W-2 perfectly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Steps to Reproduce:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;Enter a W-2 where 100% of the work is overtime (common for dual-role employees under the same EIN).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;Include a significant pre-tax contribution in Box 12.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;Attempt to claim the 33.3% overtime premium deduction on Schedule 1-A.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;The software will block e-filing, citing that the overtime cannot be more than 1/3 of Box 1.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 17:23:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-law-changes/discussion/overtime-validation-bug-desktop-version/01/3846870#M2311</guid>
      <dc:creator>HotToddy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-20T17:23:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Overtime Validation Bug (Desktop Version)</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-law-changes/discussion/re-overtime-validation-bug-desktop-version/01/3849046#M2317</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Box 1 of the W-2 is the correct box to use when evaluating overtime. &amp;nbsp;Box 3 is Social Security wages. &amp;nbsp;However, I'd like to understand a couple of things.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;You're a dual-role employee&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;This W-2 is 100% overtime.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;You should have a second W-2 with the same EIN for the straight-time portion of your dual role?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;Combine the two W-2's that are from the same EIN.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The IRS will recognise the two EINs as the same and do the same calculation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This will resolve the 33,3% overtime issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Contact us again with any additional details.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2026 21:16:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-law-changes/discussion/re-overtime-validation-bug-desktop-version/01/3849046#M2317</guid>
      <dc:creator>JohnB5677</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-22T21:16:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Overtime Validation Bug (Desktop Version)</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-law-changes/discussion/re-overtime-validation-bug-desktop-version/01/3851006#M2320</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the response, but combining the W-2s is not a viable solution for several reasons:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Different EINs:&lt;/STRONG&gt; These W-2s are from separate divisions within the same corporation and carry &lt;STRONG&gt;different Employer Identification Numbers (EINs)&lt;/STRONG&gt;. Combining them would cause an IRS mismatch error and is not an option.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Separate Capacities:&lt;/STRONG&gt; One role is salaried (Standard Time), while the other is strictly hourly (100% Overtime). This is not a 'dual role' under a single payroll record; they are distinct entries.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The Root Mathematical Error Remains:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The issue isn't how the data is entered; it’s the &lt;STRONG&gt;denominator&lt;/STRONG&gt; the validation script uses for the 'Reasonableness' check.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The Box 1 Distortion:&lt;/STRONG&gt; Box 1 represents taxable wages &lt;I&gt;after&lt;/I&gt; pre-tax contributions (401k/403b). For any employee who saves for retirement, Box 1 is significantly lower than their actual gross earnings.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The Logic Failure:&lt;/STRONG&gt; By using Box 1 as the denominator, the software creates a false-positive error.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Example:&lt;/STRONG&gt; Gross Wages (Box 5) = $100,000. Overtime = $33,333 (Exactly &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;1/3&lt;/SPAN&gt;, which is legal).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The Savings Penalty:&lt;/STRONG&gt; If that person contributes $23,000 to a 401k, their &lt;STRONG&gt;Box 1&lt;/STRONG&gt; becomes &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;$77,000&lt;/SPAN&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The Bug:&lt;/STRONG&gt; TurboTax then calculates &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;$33,333 \div 77,000 = 43.2\%&lt;/SPAN&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The Result:&lt;/STRONG&gt; The software blocks the e-file because &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;$43.2\% &amp;gt; 33.3\%&lt;/SPAN&gt;, even though the overtime is exactly &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;1/3&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;of the earned wages.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The Requested Fix:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This validation script should be updated to compare the &lt;STRONG&gt;Schedule 1-A&lt;/STRONG&gt; entry against &lt;STRONG&gt;Box 5 (Medicare Wages)&lt;/STRONG&gt;, which represents true gross earnings and does not 'shrink' based on retirement contributions.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please escalate this to the &lt;STRONG&gt;Product Integrity / Calculations Team&lt;/STRONG&gt;. This bug effectively prevents any taxpayer with significant overtime and high retirement savings from e-filing.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2026 18:06:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-law-changes/discussion/re-overtime-validation-bug-desktop-version/01/3851006#M2320</guid>
      <dc:creator>HotToddy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-23T18:06:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Overtime Validation Bug (Desktop Version)</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-law-changes/discussion/re-overtime-validation-bug-desktop-version/01/3851053#M2321</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I don't understand.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
 &lt;LI&gt;If you work for a company that has two different EINs, you essentially work for two different companies.&lt;/LI&gt;
 &lt;LI&gt;You confirmed this when you said that you couldn't combine the W-2s.&lt;/LI&gt;
 &lt;LI&gt;If that is true you work for one company that &amp;nbsp;pays a fixed wage,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/LI&gt;
 &lt;LI&gt;You work for another company that evidently pays you that wage plus 50%&lt;/LI&gt;
 &lt;LI&gt;You don't have any overtime.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2026 18:23:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-law-changes/discussion/re-overtime-validation-bug-desktop-version/01/3851053#M2321</guid>
      <dc:creator>JohnB5677</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-23T18:23:29Z</dc:date>
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