topic Re: QCDs not reflected on 2018 return? in Retirement tax questions

QCDs not reflected on 2018 return?

w-burnham — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 16:12:41 GMT

In looking over my 2018 return for end of year tax planning for 2019, I see that my line 4a says $130,809 followed by the QCD annotation and then 4b (taxable amount) is $140,460. All the numbers would have been reflected in my Fidelity records that TurboTax imported (although I don't see QCDs reflected on my copy of the 2018 or 2017 1099r's -- they have gross amount and taxable amount the same).

1. How can the post-QCD taxable amount be more than the 4a amount? My records indicate that I did $2,100 worth of QCDs in 2018. I see that my 2017 return's line 15a (the old IRA line) is less than 15b. Why isn't that true of the 2018 return?

2. Where are QCDs reflected on my Fidelity 1099r's? Does the QCD amount just come off the top of the gross amount?

Re: QCDs not reflected on 2018 return?

dmertz — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 17:28:12 GMT

The amount reported on line 4a of your 2018 Form 1040 in this case does not reflect the total amount of all Forms 1099-R that you received because of the way line 4a combines the gross amount of IRA distributions with the gross amount of pension and annuity distributions. In your case it seems that only your IRA distributions are being included on line 4a and your pension and annuity distributions have been excluded from line 4a.

The IRS has recognized that the way amounts on line 4a of 2018 Form 1040 were combined was as a problem and for 2019 has gone back to having separate lines for IRA distributions (lines 4a and 4b) and for pension distributions (lines 4c and 4d).

QCDs are not reflected on Form 1099-R because the IRA custodian has insufficient information to determine if the money transferred to charity actually qualifies as a QCD, so your QCD distribution is reported the same as any regular distribution. It's your responsibility to report the QCD on your tax return based on having met the requirements for the regular distribution to be a QCD (which you apparently did since you have the "QCD" notation present).

Re: QCDs not reflected on 2018 return?

w-burnham — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 19:20:37 GMT

Thanks. But I don't think I have any pensions or annuity distributions --- unless that is what they consider my 403b distributions to be.

Re: QCDs not reflected on 2018 return?

dmertz — Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:44:01 GMT

Yes, your 403(b) distributions are in the category of pension distributions, not IRA distributions.