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    <title>topic 401k after leaving job in Retirement tax questions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm deciding what to do with my 401k after leaving my job. I'm currently unemployed so I won't have the option of moving it to another employer's plan so I have a few questions on what will happen if I were to move it to an IRA or leave it alone.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;If I were to leave the 401k as is:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Are there any tax implications that I need to be aware of if I leave the 401k alone? I don't plan on taking any distributions&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;If I were to move the 401k to an IRA:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;This year, I contributed to a traditional IRA and converted those funds to my Roth IRA (backdoor Roth IRA).&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;What would be tax implications if I were to move the 401k to a traditional IRA? Would the pro-rata rule apply?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Would it be better to move the 401k to a traditional IRA next year? I'm planning to directly contribute to my Roth IRA for next year since my income won't be high&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Would I need to report anything when filing taxes if I decide to move my 401k to a traditional IRA? For example, would I need to report any gains? Would I report that I moved my 401k? (similar to reporting that I did a roth conversion from traditional IRA)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2025 18:51:29 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>altheaf</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-12-12T18:51:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>401k after leaving job</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/401k-after-leaving-job/01/3716158#M253171</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm deciding what to do with my 401k after leaving my job. I'm currently unemployed so I won't have the option of moving it to another employer's plan so I have a few questions on what will happen if I were to move it to an IRA or leave it alone.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;If I were to leave the 401k as is:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Are there any tax implications that I need to be aware of if I leave the 401k alone? I don't plan on taking any distributions&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;If I were to move the 401k to an IRA:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;This year, I contributed to a traditional IRA and converted those funds to my Roth IRA (backdoor Roth IRA).&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;What would be tax implications if I were to move the 401k to a traditional IRA? Would the pro-rata rule apply?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Would it be better to move the 401k to a traditional IRA next year? I'm planning to directly contribute to my Roth IRA for next year since my income won't be high&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Would I need to report anything when filing taxes if I decide to move my 401k to a traditional IRA? For example, would I need to report any gains? Would I report that I moved my 401k? (similar to reporting that I did a roth conversion from traditional IRA)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2025 18:51:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>altheaf</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-12T18:51:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 401k after leaving job</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/re-401k-after-leaving-job/01/3716163#M253172</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;If I were to leave the 401k as is:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;No tax issues. &amp;nbsp;If you are under age 55, then any withdrawals you make before age 59-1/2 will be subject to income tax plus a penalty. &amp;nbsp;Some employers might kick you out of their plan especially if you have a low balance, you have to ask them. &amp;nbsp;If they don't kick you out, you can leave it there indefinitely.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;If I were to move the 401k to an IRA:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you rollover your 401k to a traditional IRA, then the pro-rata rule would apply to any future Roth conversions -- it would make a true backdoor Roth IRA contribution impossible. &amp;nbsp;That won't matter if your income allows direct Roth contributions, but might cause a problem if your income rises again.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The rollover is non-taxable. &amp;nbsp;There is no difference between contributions and earnings since none were ever taxed, so there is no tax on a rollover. &amp;nbsp;If you do a direct rollover from trustee to trustee, you might not have to report it at all (I forget this point) but even if you do get a 1099-R, you just report that fact and tell your tax software that it was a 100% rollover.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Some additional points to consider:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. You should evaluate your investment choices. &amp;nbsp;A 401k may offer limited investment options, but they may have lower expense ratios than buying the same fund through a private IRA. &amp;nbsp;But an IRA may have more investment options.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. Certain types of emergency withdrawals can be made from an IRA but not a 401k. &amp;nbsp;But you can still leave the money in the 401k, and only rollover part of the funds that you need. &amp;nbsp;(For example, I did a qualified HSA funding distribution this year to put $5000 into my HSA. &amp;nbsp;That can only be done from an IRA, so first I rolled over $5K from my 403b to an IRA then rolled it over again from the IRA to the HSA. &amp;nbsp;I left the rest of my money in the 401k because I am satisfied with the investment choices.)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/retirement-topics-exceptions-to-tax-on-early-distributions" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/retirement-topics-exceptions-to-tax-on-early-distributions&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2025 19:23:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Opus 17</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-12T19:23:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 401k after leaving job</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/re-401k-after-leaving-job/01/3716174#M253174</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;If you roll over the 401(k) to a traditional IRA in 2025, the Roth IRA conversion that you already did earlier in 2025 will become mostly taxable&lt;/STRONG&gt; because the pro rata calculation must be done using your year-end balance in traditional IRAs (which will include the funds rolled over from the 401(k)).&amp;nbsp; The relative timing of these transactions in 2025 is irrelevant.&amp;nbsp; To avoid the 2025 conversion becoming largely taxable, you'll need to wait until 2026 to do a rollover of the 401(k) to a traditional IRA.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Moving the 401(k) to a traditional IRA is a reportable rollover that must be reflected on Form 1040 lines 5a and 5b.&amp;nbsp; Such a rollover is nontaxable, so it would not be included on line 5b.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2025 20:19:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/re-401k-after-leaving-job/01/3716174#M253174</guid>
      <dc:creator>dmertz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-12T20:19:23Z</dc:date>
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