topic When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes? in Retirement tax questions

When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

Ajohnson2252 — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 04:30:37 GMT

I am attempting to submit my 1099-R taxes on my 2020 IRA distribution which will require Form 8915-E for exception of the 10% early withdrawal penalty. (COVID-19 work hour reduction) - When will the form be updated and accessible to allow me to properly process my taxes without the penalty.

Just to make sure there isn’t any confusion, I do not need Form 8915-F as I am reporting the distribution that was made in 2020.

Thank you!!

Alli

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

macuser_22 — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 04:46:10 GMT

@Ajohnson2252 wrote:

I am attempting to submit my 1099-R taxes on my 2020 IRA distribution which will require Form 8915-E for exception of the 10% early withdrawal penalty. (COVID-19 work hour reduction) - When will the form be updated and accessible to allow me to properly process my taxes without the penalty.

Just to make sure there isn’t any confusion, I do not need Form 8915-F as I am reporting the distribution that was made in 2020.

Thank you!!

Alli

A 2020 1099-R can only be reported in a 2020 tax return, not 2021. If you filed 2020 and did not include it then you need to amend 2020 to add it. The 2020 software supports the 8915-E form.

You can only amend 2020 with the 2020 desktop software.

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

AmyC — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 20:02:59 GMT

8915-F is used for TY2021. 8915 E is not on the list as it is for 2020. The state and federal governments approve the most common forms first and work their way down the list. Please see the links for form availability. Once a date shows up, the reality should be close. Once released, Turbo Tax will work quickly to get it working in the program.

Federal form availability

S tate Forms Availability

Tip: to quickly find the form you desire, select Control F and type in the search box.

Edited 02/03/2022 (12:02 PST)

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

Ajohnson2252 — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 04:49:50 GMT

Ok thank you for that update!

So I will be able to file the 2020 distribution within this year’s tax return? Or do I need to amend last year’s instead as the poster above mentioned?

Thank You,

Alli

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

macuser_22 — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 05:10:59 GMT

@Ajohnson2252 wrote:

Ok thank you for that update!

So I will be able to file the 2020 distribution within this year’s tax return? Or do I need to amend last year’s instead as the poster above mentioned?

Thank You,

Alli

No. As I said above a 2020 1099-R distribution can only be filed on a 2020 tax return. There will be not be any 89!5-E form for 2021, that was a 2020 form only. The form for 2021 in the 8915-F form for those that filed the 2020 8915-E form deferring the tax over 3 years or taking 3 years to pay the distribution back.

@AmyC Please correct your answer.

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

Ajohnson2252 — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 05:10:46 GMT

Thank you for your response. It was stated that the 2020 distribution can be spread out over 3 years of tax returns. So the Form 8915-F doesn’t appear to be the right tax form per the instructions listed for the form being used for distributions made in 2021 or later years.

Please verify if your response has that in mind as well.

Thank you! Just want to make sure not to cause delays once I submit.

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

macuser_22 — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 05:23:11 GMT

@Ajohnson2252 wrote:

Thank you for your response. It was stated that the 2020 distribution can be spread out over 3 years of tax returns. So the Form 8915-F doesn’t appear to be the right tax form per the instructions listed for the form being used for distributions made in 2021 or later years.

Please verify if your response has that in mind as well.

Thank you! Just want to make sure not to cause delays once I submit.

If you did not report your 2020 1099-R on you 2020 tax return or not file the 2020 8915-E form last year then you must amend 2020 to add it.

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

macuser_22 — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 05:23:39 GMT

@Ajohnson2252 wrote:

Ok thank you for that update!

So I will be able to file the 2020 distribution within this year’s tax return? Or do I need to amend last year’s instead as the poster above mentioned?

Thank You,

Alli

No. As I said above a 2020 distribution can only be filed on a 2020 tax return. There will be not 89!5-E form for 2021, that was a 2020 form only.

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

fanfare — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 18:04:40 GMT

~~There is no "divide by 3.0" option for 2021. Only 2020.~~

If you took a 2020 COVID distribution, and you amend your 2020 tax return to report that election,

you will pay the second of three portions on your 2021 tax return.

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

Ajohnson2252 — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 15:34:25 GMT

Awe sorry, that actually is incorrect. Form 8915-F will allow 1/3 repayment for qualified 2020 distributions *made in 2021*.

But I found the information I was looking for, for my concern with amending my 2020 taxes and also filing my 2021.

Thank you again for your response

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

fanfare — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 18:45:16 GMT

@Ajohnson2252

You are right about dividing by 3.0 for 2021.

Note there is a huge backlog of paper returns and amended returns for 2020 and now 2021.

The simplest solution is to not divide your 2020 distribution in three parts for 2020 when you amend.

Then you will not have any contradictions by submitting your 2021 tax return now.

You won't need 8915-F unless you are taking another disaster distribution in 2021.

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

danaT — Thu, 10 Feb 2022 04:01:14 GMT

You have got to be kidding me. You are telling me that I am not going to be able to do my taxes until after 3/31??? Aren't they due 4/15....this seems crazy.

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

FangxiaL — Thu, 10 Feb 2022 04:13:32 GMT

Form 8915-F is replacing Form 8915-E.

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

macuser_22 — Thu, 10 Feb 2022 17:22:16 GMT

@danaT wrote:

You have got to be kidding me. You are telling me that I am not going to be able to do my taxes until after 3/31??? Aren't they due 4/15....this seems crazy.

Not unusual really. In prior years some form were not available until May requiring taxpayers to pay any tax due by April 15 and filing an extension to file the paper when the forms were available.

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

minutemanmath — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:55:11 GMT

Can I get some clarification on this? I already claimed a 1099-R last year, used form 8915e, and elected to distribute the income over 3 years. I do NOT need to amend my 2020 return, and I did NOT take an additional withdrawal in 2021, so I do NOT need to file an 8915f for my 2021 return.

My question is how do I report that distributed income on my 2021 return? Is the IRS going to send out a form? Should I just manually enter the amount from line 5b on my 1040 for this year?

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

DoninGA — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:06:58 GMT

@minutemanmath wrote:

Can I get some clarification on this? I already claimed a 1099-R last year, used form 8915e, and elected to distribute the income over 3 years. I do NOT need to amend my 2020 return, and I did NOT take an additional withdrawal in 2021, so I do NOT need to file an 8915f for my 2021 return.

My question is how do I report that distributed income on my 2021 return? Is the IRS going to send out a form? Should I just manually enter the amount from line 5b on my 1040 for this year?

The new IRS Form 8915-F is used to report the distribution in 2021 and in 2022. So you will need to report the distribution for 2021 in the same section as entering a Form 1099-R. The questions concerning the distribution are not yet included in the section. TurboTax does not have the Form 8915-F finalized for including in the program.

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

minutemanmath — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:25:57 GMT

Thank you! So, even though I did not receive a distribution in 2021, I still report it as if I did because last year I elected to spread it over three years? Do you happen to know if the IRS sends out a form like the 1099-R to let us know how much income to report or are we expected to use our tax forms from 2020 to find the proper amount?

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

DoninGA — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:36:57 GMT

@minutemanmath wrote:

Thank you! So, even though I did not receive a distribution in 2021, I still report it as if I did because last year I elected to spread it over three years? Do you happen to know if the IRS sends out a form like the 1099-R to let us know how much income to report or are we expected to use our tax forms from 2020 to find the proper amount?

No the IRS does not send you any type of Form 1099-R for the distribution.

When the form is available in TurboTax you will be asked to provide the information from the Form 8915-E that was used in tax year 2020. If you transferred your 2020 tax data to the 2021 tax return when you started the 2021 return, the information from the 2020 8915-E will also transfer. So this should be a (hopefully) easy procedure for reporting the 2021 distribution.

Re: When will Form 8915-E (not F) be available to complete taxes?

minutemanmath — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:49:52 GMT

Okay, thank you again!