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    <title>topic Bought Put Option and sold at a loss wash sale rule in Investors &amp; landlords</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a question regarding the wash sale rule. I bought 4 put options to open on 30 July 2021. I sold these put options to close on 16 Aug 2021 at a loss. I am being told by my brokerage that this is a wash sale since these transactions were done within 30 days.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The IRS states:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;"Wash Sales&lt;BR /&gt;You cannot deduct losses from sales or trades of stock or securities in a wash sale unless the loss was incurred in the ordinary course of your business as a dealer in stock or securities.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A wash sale occurs when you sell or trade stock or securities at a loss and within 30 days before or after the sale you:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Buy substantially identical stock or securities,&lt;BR /&gt;Acquire substantially identical stock or securities in a fully taxable trade,&lt;BR /&gt;Acquire a contract or option to buy substantially identical stock or securities, or&lt;BR /&gt;Acquire substantially identical stock for your individual retirement arrangement (IRA) or Roth IRA."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To clarify, I did not have any other instances of buying this position +/- 30 days except the position that i initially bought in the first place (4 put options to open on 30 July 2021).&amp;nbsp; This is considered a wash sale? Every option bought and then sold under 30 days at a loss is automatically considered a wash sale?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 05:39:58 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Stugi</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-03-09T05:39:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Bought Put Option and sold at a loss wash sale rule</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/bought-put-option-and-sold-at-a-loss-wash-sale-rule/01/2495817#M81487</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a question regarding the wash sale rule. I bought 4 put options to open on 30 July 2021. I sold these put options to close on 16 Aug 2021 at a loss. I am being told by my brokerage that this is a wash sale since these transactions were done within 30 days.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The IRS states:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;"Wash Sales&lt;BR /&gt;You cannot deduct losses from sales or trades of stock or securities in a wash sale unless the loss was incurred in the ordinary course of your business as a dealer in stock or securities.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A wash sale occurs when you sell or trade stock or securities at a loss and within 30 days before or after the sale you:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Buy substantially identical stock or securities,&lt;BR /&gt;Acquire substantially identical stock or securities in a fully taxable trade,&lt;BR /&gt;Acquire a contract or option to buy substantially identical stock or securities, or&lt;BR /&gt;Acquire substantially identical stock for your individual retirement arrangement (IRA) or Roth IRA."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To clarify, I did not have any other instances of buying this position +/- 30 days except the position that i initially bought in the first place (4 put options to open on 30 July 2021).&amp;nbsp; This is considered a wash sale? Every option bought and then sold under 30 days at a loss is automatically considered a wash sale?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 05:39:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Stugi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-09T05:39:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bought Put Option and sold at a loss wash sale rule</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/re-bought-put-option-and-sold-at-a-loss-wash-sale-rule/01/2496533#M81510</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is an area that is very fact oriented.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;We have no idea what else you have in your portfolio; which your brokerage firm does.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You need to work through this with your brokerage firm and have them explain, based on their knowledge of your portfolio, why this falls within the wash sale rules.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Its not that you never get this loss, it is just added to the basis of "substantially identical" stock which your brokerage firm should explain to you as well.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2022 01:00:39 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Rick19744</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-02-19T01:00:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bought Put Option and sold at a loss wash sale rule</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/re-bought-put-option-and-sold-at-a-loss-wash-sale-rule/01/2496606#M81513</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;C on the unknown, but as I stated earlier, I do not have other trades for the time period on any account +/- 30 days or anywhere else. The brokerage told me it was because the put options buy to open and then sold to close was executed within 30 days. Here is what I was told by their part:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;"A wash sale occurs when you:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;sell or trade securities at a loss and&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;within 30 days before or after the sale, buy a substantially similar security, including acquiring a contract or option to buy substantially identical securities.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Since the contracts were opened within 30 days before the date they were closed for a loss, the transaction is categorized as a wash sale."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Confusing as I didn't buy any new options after this, so I have nothing to add the cost basis to. Nothing new at all. By the way it is worded, makes it seem that If I buy 4 put options of X to open and then sell 4 contracts of X to close at a loss, then its automatically a wash sale because its within 30 days, even though there is no record of any identical or similar security being bought anywhere else.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2022 01:22:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Stugi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-02-19T01:22:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bought Put Option and sold at a loss wash sale rule</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/re-bought-put-option-and-sold-at-a-loss-wash-sale-rule/01/2499834#M81647</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;options are covered by the same wash sale rules as stocks.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;a wash sale occurs when a separate triggering BUY order is completed within the +/- thirty-day window.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2022 23:25:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>fanfare</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-02-19T23:25:15Z</dc:date>
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