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Difference between covered and non covered( basis when reported and non reported) to IRS, regarding capital gains and capital loss

metalgs20000 — Fri, 07 Jun 2019 21:55:16 GMT

I'd like to know about this one too. In fact Turbotax ad...

john-teichman — Fri, 07 Jun 2019 21:55:17 GMT

I'd like to know about this one too. In fact Turbotax added my short term gains as class C on the form but doesn't explain or have a selection for that in the UI. Thanks.

If I have uncovered gains and don't have a record of the...

pne — Fri, 07 Jun 2019 21:55:19 GMT

If I have uncovered gains and don't have a record of the purchase, how do I declare cost?

In tax year 2011, new legislation was passed requiring br...

LeslieB — Fri, 07 Jun 2019 21:55:20 GMT

In tax year 2011, new legislation was passed requiring brokers to report adjusted basis and whether any gain or loss on a sale is classified as short-term or long-term from the sale of "covered securities" on Form 1099-B. Prior to this time frame, it was hit or miss to get this level of detail from investment firms. Covered just distinguishes the investments that must include this detail from those that do not, noncovered. An investment is considered covered if it is:

Shares of corporate stock acquired on or after January 1, 2011.
Shares of stock in mutual funds and stock acquired in connection with a dividend reinvestment plan are generally not covered unless acquired after January 1, 2012.
Certain other types of securities (e.g., debt instruments and options) will be covered if acquired after January 1, 2014.

"Non-covered" securities are any securities purchased or acquired before the above effective dates. Transactions involving assets purchased and held prior to these effective dates can still be reported as they have been in the past, meaning that brokers may not provide detailed cost basis reporting to the IRS on the sales of "non-covered" securities. They may decide to report only your gross proceeds. For these situations, it is your responsibility to report the proper cost basis on non-covered securities to the IRS. If you do not have this information, you can still seek help from your broker, but it may be a little more difficult than getting information for covered securities.

Let me know if this resolves your tax question. Thank you for choosing TurboTax. Have a wonderful day! ~Leslie, EA

Thanks Leslie very helpful!

john-teichman — Fri, 07 Jun 2019 21:55:22 GMT

Thanks Leslie very helpful!

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MnMnMarin — Thu, 16 Apr 2020 23:46:41 GMT

Hello LeslieB

My Mother passed mid-year 2019 and noncovered securities were sold and I am not able to find the cost basis for these Unit Investment Trust securities. TurboTax Home & Business (for the Individual return) and TurboTax Business (for the Estate return) throws an error because I don't have a Cost Basis to enter. What do I do?

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CatinaT1 — Thu, 16 Apr 2020 23:51:38 GMT

That's tough. If you don't have records for this you will need to but a cost basis of $0 and pay tax on the full gain.

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Dave761 — Thu, 15 Oct 2020 19:19:38 GMT

I plan to sell mutual funds. I have received both covered and noncovered cost basis and gains and losses for the funds. The covered will appear on my 1099 but the noncovered will not. How do I claim the noncovered cost basis and gains and losses in computing capital gains and taxes on my 2020 tax return?

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VolvoGirl — Thu, 15 Oct 2020 19:20:36 GMT

Just enter the cost from your records.

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Anonymous — Thu, 15 Oct 2020 19:23:09 GMT

does the fund show on the 1099B the cost basis? uncovered just means the fund doesn't report the cost basis to the IRS.

Re: If I have uncovered gains and don't have a record of the...

Beppe2002 — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 01:34:19 GMT

I have a record of what you classified as an uncovered gain. The difference of the tax is $2.200 tax owed instead of a refund. I tried correcting it in Turbotax but can't. Even if I change the designation to D which is long term covered.

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fanfare — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 22:42:28 GMT

@Beppe2002 You can't change the sales category from E to D.

Just delete wrong transaction and reenter it with the correct basis.

Category E is a trigger to IRS that you are supplying the basis.

Unless there is something unusual, they don't care.

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hunt1806 — Thu, 04 Feb 2021 17:00:08 GMT

Turbo Tax refuses to recognize the basis I computed for non covered mutual fund shares sold, and wants to report the entire proceeds as the capital gain. This is a long term gain and I computed the basis using average cost per share from my own records.

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JohnB5677 — Thu, 04 Feb 2021 18:40:16 GMT

You can make a correction in the 1099-B entry screen.

As you continue through the interview you will be able to manually enter each transaction.

Box 1e is the Cost or basis.
If it blank on your 1099-B, leave it blank.
Just below that is a check box The cost basis is incorrect or missing on my 1099-B.
Let us know if any of these situations apply to this sale
Select None of the above.
I know my cost basis and need to make an adjustment.
Enter your adjusted cost basis.

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povertywages — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 19:46:07 GMT

How about crypto currency sales and purchases. I only received a tax statement. Do I count these as covered or non covered? All of the crypto is short term, all transactions were made in 2020. Thanks

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WendyN2 — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 22:36:49 GMT

It depends on the type of cryptocurrency you are talking about. I've gathered some very useful (and somewhat voluminous) information that I hope will be helpful since I am not sure what type(s) you have and whether or not you are a broker or an individual. Both covered and non-covered are required to be reported, but the differentiation is more complex than a "they are or they are not". Yes, one of those tax "it depends" situations. My professional opinion on this is that the proverbial jury is still out on this one.

For tax-reporting purposes, the difference between covered and noncovered shares is this: For covered shares, we're required to report cost basis to both you and the IRS. For noncovered shares, the cost basis reporting is sent only to you. You are responsible for reporting the sale of noncovered shares.

Some more in-depth information for you:

Almost all cryptocurrency sales are taxable and would require you to check “yes” on crypto question on Schedule 1 .

For those of you who are still wondering why you have to answer the “crypto question” when you file for taxes, check out why the IRS included it here:

Forbes and Cryptocurrencies

The following transactions would fall under the “sell” category on crypto question. Some are obvious and some are not.

Selling crypto assets in exchange for USD - Selling cryptocurrencies and receiving USD is probably the most common transaction an average US crypto holder goes through every year. Let’s take a look at an example and break down the tax consequences. Assume you purchased 1 BTC for $4,000 on March 1st, 2019. You sold this on an exchange for $9,000 on Oct 1st, 2019. This would generate a short-term capital gain of $5,000 ($9,000 - $4,000). This is short-term because the holding period (the duration you kept the asset) is less than 12 months. Short-term capital gains are taxed at ordinary income tax rates. Your specific tax rate is based on your filling status and overall income level, and ranges from 10% to 37%. In contrast, if you were to sell your 1 BTC on April 1st, 2020, that would generate a long-term capital gain of $5,000. Long-term capital gains are subject to preferential tax rates. This means that those gains are taxed at either 0%, 15% or maximum 20% rate. An easy way to save on taxes is to sell your cryptocurrency position after you hold it for more than 12 months. If you sell your crypto after holding it for more than 12 months, whether you make $2,000,000 or $20,000,000 in profits, maximum capital gain tax rate you would be subject to is 20%. In addition to capital gain taxes, at high income levels, you may also be subject to a 3.8% Net Investment Income Tax.
Purchasing goods and services using cryptocurrencies - When you purchase goods & services using cryptocurrencies, you are effectively selling your cryptocurrency in exchange for the product or service you receive. For example, let’s assume you have 1 BTC purchased on March 1st, 2019 for $5,000. On November 1st, 2019 you want to buy some computer equipment listed on overstock.com using your bitcoin. The total cost of equipment is $6,000. By November 1st, your original BTC has appreciated to $6,000. When you use your BTC, which is worth $6,000 now, to purchase the equipment, that creates a taxable event. In other words, you are disposing an appreciated asset and gaining access to a new asset. In this case, $1,000 ($6,000 - $5,000) will be taxed as short-term capital gains.
Margin liquidation - Margin trading is not a new phenomenon in the crypto world yet many users have a hard time understanding why they have to pay taxes when they fail to respond a margin call. In simple terms, margin loan is a loan provided by a crypto exchange/platform to invest in other cryptocurrencies. If your balance falls below the “Maintenance Margin Requirement (MMRand you fail to deposit more money to maintain your MMR, the exchange will start liquidating your assets to cover losses. This will follow the same tax principals applicable to sale of cryptocurrencies.
Liquidation of collateral - Thanks to Decentralized Finance (DeFi) now you can borrow money by collateralizing cryptocurrencies.

These are some transactions which will fall under the “sell” category of the crypto question. If you are an investor, gains and losses arising from crypto trading activities are reported on IRS Form 8949 and IRS 1040 Schedule D.

(Examples from Forbes Jan, 2021)