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    <title>topic From 2006-2018 we lived in half of duplex and rented other half out.  If we sell before end 2020, can we still exclude 50% of the capital gains as our primary residence? in Investors &amp; landlords</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;We lived in half of the duplex from 2006 to Jan 2018 and rented the other half out.&amp;nbsp; In Jan 2018 we moved and rented both sides out for the entire year.&amp;nbsp; We plan on continuing to rent both sides until we sell the property.&amp;nbsp; If we sell before Jan 2021, we will still be in the 2-out-of-5 year window to qualify as a sale of our primary residence and, I think, could exclude 50% of capital gains from taxes.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, are there complications since we now receive rental income from both sides?&amp;nbsp; Have we lost our primary residence advantage?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From: &lt;A rel="nofollow" href="https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p523.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p523.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Page 11: Business or Rental Use of Home&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A space formerly used for business is considered residence space if ALL of the following are true.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. You weren’t using the space for business or rental at the time you sold the property,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. You didn’t earn any business or rental income from the space in the year you sold your home, and&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. You used the space as residence space for 2 years out of the 5 years leading up to the sale&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I sell the duplex now, then #1 and #2 are false -- We did use our unit's space for rental and we did earn rental income from it.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I found an answer in the forum for a similiar situation:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/4506176-how-to-calculate-capital-gains-for-the-sale-of-a-duplex-where-one-unit-was-my-primary-residence-24-months-in-5-years-before-sale-but-not-immediately-before-the-sale" target="_blank"&gt;https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/4506176-how-to-calculate-capital-gains-for-the-sale-of-a-duplex-wh...&lt;/A&gt;)&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The answer seems to say we can still exclude 50% of the sale from capital gains tax, but it seems at odds with Publication 523 above and I don't know how to reconsile the two.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Would we still be able to exclude 50% of the capital gains as our primary residence or not?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2019 08:48:58 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>dave10</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-06-06T08:48:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>From 2006-2018 we lived in half of duplex and rented other half out.  If we sell before end 2020, can we still exclude 50% of the capital gains as our primary residence?</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/from-2006-2018-we-lived-in-half-of-duplex-and-rented-other-half-out-if-we-sell-before-end-2020-can/01/650761#M28448</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;We lived in half of the duplex from 2006 to Jan 2018 and rented the other half out.&amp;nbsp; In Jan 2018 we moved and rented both sides out for the entire year.&amp;nbsp; We plan on continuing to rent both sides until we sell the property.&amp;nbsp; If we sell before Jan 2021, we will still be in the 2-out-of-5 year window to qualify as a sale of our primary residence and, I think, could exclude 50% of capital gains from taxes.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, are there complications since we now receive rental income from both sides?&amp;nbsp; Have we lost our primary residence advantage?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From: &lt;A rel="nofollow" href="https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p523.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p523.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Page 11: Business or Rental Use of Home&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A space formerly used for business is considered residence space if ALL of the following are true.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. You weren’t using the space for business or rental at the time you sold the property,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. You didn’t earn any business or rental income from the space in the year you sold your home, and&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. You used the space as residence space for 2 years out of the 5 years leading up to the sale&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I sell the duplex now, then #1 and #2 are false -- We did use our unit's space for rental and we did earn rental income from it.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I found an answer in the forum for a similiar situation:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/4506176-how-to-calculate-capital-gains-for-the-sale-of-a-duplex-where-one-unit-was-my-primary-residence-24-months-in-5-years-before-sale-but-not-immediately-before-the-sale" target="_blank"&gt;https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/4506176-how-to-calculate-capital-gains-for-the-sale-of-a-duplex-wh...&lt;/A&gt;)&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The answer seems to say we can still exclude 50% of the sale from capital gains tax, but it seems at odds with Publication 523 above and I don't know how to reconsile the two.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Would we still be able to exclude 50% of the capital gains as our primary residence or not?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2019 08:48:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>dave10</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-06-06T08:48:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Treat this as two separate properties.  On the rental sid...</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/treat-this-as-two-separate-properties-on-the-rental-sid/01/650762#M28449</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Treat this as two separate properties.&amp;nbsp; On the rental side, you pay capital gains tax on the entire gain, including depreciation recapture.&amp;nbsp; On the part that used to be a personal residence, you can exclude 250k/500k, but pay depreciation recapture from depreciation since it was converted to a rental.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Simplified example.&amp;nbsp; You purchased the entire structure for 200k, and sell it for 600k, no capital improvements.&amp;nbsp; Assuming a 50/50 split, you would have a gain of 200k plus depreciation recapture on the rental portion, and a 200k gain plus smaller depreciation recapture on the personal side. Applying the exclusion on this property eliminates the capital gain, but not depreciation recapture.&amp;nbsp; You can't apply any if the "leftover" exclusion to the rental side.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2019 08:48:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Zbucklyo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-06-06T08:48:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Okay, thanks, that's very helpful.  We do have them in Tu...</title>
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      <description>Okay, thanks, that's very helpful.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We do have them in TurboTax as two separate "properties". We did, however, make capital improvements to the duplex over the years -- repaving the driveway, renovated both kitchens, rebuilt porches, etc.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Would we also need to recapture the depreciation used on our side for these renovations when we sell our "half"?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2019 08:49:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>dave10</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-06-06T08:49:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>The capital improvements should also be split as appropri...</title>
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      <description>The capital improvements should also be split as appropriate, depending on where they were made.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Any portion applicable to the personal side would be added to cost basis of that side.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Then, when that side was converted to a rental, you'd use that cost basis for depreciation without separately depreciating them.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;On the rental side, they should have been added as assets and depreciated when added, and depreciation recaptured on sale.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2019 08:49:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Zbucklyo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-06-06T08:49:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Ugh... that makes sense and I wonder if I split out our p...</title>
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      <description>Ugh... that makes sense and I wonder if I split out our personal side correctly this year for taxes.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I started depreciating the FMV of renovations applicable to our personal side, date-of-service starting from the date we rented it.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;For example, I determined the FMV of the driveway resurfacing (discounting for wear-and-tear) and started depreciating 50% of that value. 50% of it was already being depreciated for the rented side. And, or course, I've already submitted our taxes so can't go back and easily change that.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Can I continue to depreciate our personal side renovations (now rented) in this way, or did I mess things up?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2019 08:49:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>dave10</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-06-06T08:49:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>If it were me, I'd amend and only have one depreciation s...</title>
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      <description>If it were me, I'd amend and only have one depreciation schedule for the personal side.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;But it probably amounts to the same thing other than the wear and tear piece if you chose 27.5 year depreciation for everything.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2019 08:49:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Zbucklyo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-06-06T08:49:05Z</dc:date>
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