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    <title>topic Rental Property Expenses in Investors &amp; landlords</title>
    <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/rental-property-expenses/01/3799902#M129216</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I bought a rental property in April 01, 2025, and was ready for rent on April 30, 2025. It was rented on May 16, 2025. It was bought strictly for rental, and never used for personal or vacation use.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My question is, what fees from closing statement from escrow I can deduct, depreciate or amortize? What about the HOA and mortgage interest paid prior to getting the property ready for rental? What about the expenses incurred to get the property ready for rental (i.e. prior to 04/30/2025) e.g. new paint, added new blinds, repair garage door and washer, cracked window glass etc.?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2026 02:08:57 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>kata123</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-02-25T02:08:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Rental Property Expenses</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/rental-property-expenses/01/3799902#M129216</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I bought a rental property in April 01, 2025, and was ready for rent on April 30, 2025. It was rented on May 16, 2025. It was bought strictly for rental, and never used for personal or vacation use.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My question is, what fees from closing statement from escrow I can deduct, depreciate or amortize? What about the HOA and mortgage interest paid prior to getting the property ready for rental? What about the expenses incurred to get the property ready for rental (i.e. prior to 04/30/2025) e.g. new paint, added new blinds, repair garage door and washer, cracked window glass etc.?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2026 02:08:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/rental-property-expenses/01/3799902#M129216</guid>
      <dc:creator>kata123</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-25T02:08:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rental Property Expenses</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/re-rental-property-expenses/01/3800365#M129229</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;In TurboTax Online, establish the rental activity by following these steps:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;Down the left side of the screen, click on&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Federal&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;Down the left side of the screen, click on&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Wages &amp;amp; income&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;Scroll down to&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Rentals, Royalties, and Farm&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Click down arrow to the right.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;Select&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Start / Revisit&lt;/STRONG&gt; to the right of&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Rental Properties and Royalties&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;At the screen&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Here's rental property info&lt;/STRONG&gt;, select&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Add income&lt;/STRONG&gt; to report rental income.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;At the screen&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Here's rental property info&lt;/STRONG&gt;, select&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Add expense or asset&lt;/STRONG&gt; to report rental expense.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;Select&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Add expense or asset&lt;/STRONG&gt; to establish the rental property asset.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;Answer the questions to establish the rental property asset and compute depreciation on the rental property asset.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;Rental property income is reported on&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040se.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#1155cc;font-size:14px;"&gt;&lt;U&gt;Schedule E Supplemental Income and Loss&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;.&amp;nbsp; See also this TurboTax&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/turbotax-support/en-us/help-article/import-export-data-files/enter-income-expenses-rental-property/L5swpaUBt_US_en_US?uid=lfpfllhn" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#1155cc;font-size:14px;"&gt;&lt;U&gt;Help&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://Settlement fees and other costs. The following settlement fees and closing costs for buying the property are part of your basis in the property. • Abstract fees. • Charges for installing utility services. • Legal fees. • Recording fees. • Surveys" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;IRS Publication 527&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;, page 10 lists &lt;U&gt;settlement fees and other costs&lt;/U&gt; that may be included in the basis of the property.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;Page 11 lists costs that may not be included in the basis of the property.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#000000;font-size:14px;"&gt;HOA fees may be deducted as a miscellaneous expense within the rental activity.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:rgb(45,51,56);font-size:14px;"&gt;&lt;I&gt;What about the expenses incurred to get the property ready for rental?&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;The IRS addresses these expenses in &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="https://Pre-rental expenses. You can deduct your ordinary and necessary expenses for managing, conserving, or maintaining rental property from the time you make it available for rent." target="_blank"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;IRS Publication 527&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;, page 5 states:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Pre-rental expenses&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;&lt;I&gt;You can deduct your ordinary and necessary expenses for managing, conserving, or maintaining rental property &lt;U&gt;from the time you make it available for rent&lt;/U&gt;.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2026 15:16:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/re-rental-property-expenses/01/3800365#M129229</guid>
      <dc:creator>JamesG1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-25T15:16:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rental Property Expenses</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/re-rental-property-expenses/01/3801599#M129254</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks James for your responses.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Your response mentions expenses incurred can be deducted only&amp;nbsp;&lt;I&gt;&lt;U&gt;from the time you make it available for rent&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/I&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Is it possible that repairs done to the property in getting ready for rent could fall under "Betterment" definition of Pub. 527?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2026 21:53:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/re-rental-property-expenses/01/3801599#M129254</guid>
      <dc:creator>kata123</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-25T21:53:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rental Property Expenses</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/re-rental-property-expenses/01/3801720#M129260</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;This is the way that I read &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-prior/p527--2024.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;Publication 527&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;The Pub portrays &lt;U&gt;improvements&lt;/U&gt; as expenditures that may be &lt;U&gt;capitalized&lt;/U&gt; and depreciated. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;The Pub portrays &lt;U&gt;betterments&lt;/U&gt; as &lt;U&gt;expenses&lt;/U&gt; that would then be subject to the quote from page 5 above.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;My understanding of the stance that the IRS takes is based upon the nature of the business, active participation versus passive participation. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;The IRS considers a rental activity to be a passive activity by its nature. &amp;nbsp;And the IRS considers a self-employment activity to be an active participation activity by definition. The IRS sees no problem expensing or amortizing start up costs for a self-employment activity.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;This is my take. &amp;nbsp;I am sure that you will be able to find vigorous discussions on this blog on this topic. &amp;nbsp;Best wishes to you.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background: var(--ck-color-mention-background); color: var(--ck-color-mention-text);"&gt;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/301409"&gt;@kata123&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2026 22:36:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/re-rental-property-expenses/01/3801720#M129260</guid>
      <dc:creator>JamesG1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-25T22:36:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rental Property Expenses</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/re-rental-property-expenses/01/3802433#M129270</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for your response.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2026 05:09:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/investments-and-rental-properties/discussion/re-rental-property-expenses/01/3802433#M129270</guid>
      <dc:creator>kata123</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-26T05:09:29Z</dc:date>
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