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Eligible Education Institution - But The Class Isn't Covered

CowboyClayt — Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:51:43 GMT

My school informed me that they are an eligible education institution, but my specific class from that school (EMT-B) is not covered under Title IV funding. The school said there is no 1098-T form for me.

Since the school is eligible, but my class isn't covered under that:

Can I, and how do I record my education expenses?
When asked in the Deluxe version if I took classes at an eligible school, would I say yes or no?

I paid about $1500 for the classes, and my work paid $500 (they paid directly to the school - it wasn't a reimbursement).

Re: Eligible Education Institution - But The Class Isn't Covered

Hal_Al — Thu, 13 Feb 2025 21:37:51 GMT

My school informed me that they are an eligible education institution, but my specific class from that school (EMT-B) is not covered.

I assume it was not covered because you were not enrolled as a degree candidate and the course did not lead to a degree, certificate or credential. This means it is not eligible for the more generous American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC). It is still eligible for the Lifetime Learning Credit (LLC).

When asked in the Deluxe version if you took classes at an eligible school, say yes.

After saying no to getting a 1098-T, answer yes to qualifying for an exception.

Re: Eligible Education Institution - But The Class Isn't Covered

AmyC — Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:22:12 GMT

Provided you meet the eligible student requirements listed in Instructions for Form 8863 p2, you have an eligible institution with eligible expenses.

I am going to assume that this is work related and would qualify for the Lifetime Learning Credit but not the AOTC. In Qualified Education Expenses - Internal Revenue Service:

For AOTC, you must pay the expenses for higher education that result in a degree or other recognized education credential. For the Lifetime Learning Credit, you can qualify if you take the course to acquire or improve your job skills.

To enter, under work assumption, select No to associate Bachelor's...questions
Continue
Enrolled in certificate of credential program
Select Yes, continue
Enrollment status
Name of school, continue
1098T? Select No, continue
Select I qualify for an exception, continue
Enter the college information, continue
If you don't have the TIN, select you can't find it and the program will keep going
enter expenses
continue entering information

Re: Eligible Education Institution - But The Class Isn't Covered

CowboyClayt — Thu, 13 Feb 2025 23:35:11 GMT

The course itself resulted in a certificate of completion that allows me to test and apply for my NREMT and state license, but the class itself did not result in a degree or license. Similarly, the class itself provides knowledge that will help me with my current job at the fire department, but does not directly result in a license that would allow me to apply for another service to work as an EMT (I would have to pass NREMT and obtain a state license first).

Given that info, does it still sound like it falls under Lifetime Learning Credit and the steps y'all have provided stay the same? @Hal_Al @AmyC

Thanks so much for you help!!

Re: Eligible Education Institution - But The Class Isn't Covered

Hal_Al — Thu, 13 Feb 2025 23:47:19 GMT

Q. Given that info, does it still sound like it falls under Lifetime Learning Credit and the steps y'all have provided stay the same?

A. Yes.

I don't think the "Certificate of completion" would upgrade the class to qualify for the more generous American Opportunity Credit.

Re: Eligible Education Institution - But The Class Isn't Covered

CowboyClayt — Thu, 27 Feb 2025 02:42:16 GMT

@Hal_AlSo I emailed the school to ask them about the status of enrollment (part-time, full-time, etc.) and the response I got was: "This is a short-term course that doesn't qualify for federal aid...We are not required to send out any tax information for any short-term courses, so no students will receive any documents from us...It doesn't qualify for the student tax credits because it's a short-term course."

So will there be a place I can enter education expenses if I can't associate it with the school like I've been trying to?

Re: Eligible Education Institution - But The Class Isn't Covered

Hal_Al — Thu, 27 Feb 2025 03:00:08 GMT

The facts that it is work related and taken at an eligible institution means it's eligible for the LLC. The course doesn't have to qualify for student aid, only the school.

Enter as previously described.

Re: Eligible Education Institution - But The Class Isn't Covered

CowboyClayt — Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:12:58 GMT

Turns out the school wasn't actually even an eligible institution...Thank you so much for your help nonetheless. Almost done filing. 😅