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    <title>topic Business expenses after closing a sole proprietorship in Business &amp; farm</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;I closed my healthcare practice in 2022. Medicare requires that I provide former patients with means of contacting me for their records. So, I am am maintaining phone and fax lines for 10 years under this requirement. Can I deduct these expenses even though the practice is closed and I have no continuing business income?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2026 04:11:04 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>drbill1202</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-02-11T04:11:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Business expenses after closing a sole proprietorship</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/business-taxes/discussion/business-expenses-after-closing-a-sole-proprietorship/01/3173687#M105360</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I closed my healthcare practice in 2022. Medicare requires that I provide former patients with means of contacting me for their records. So, I am am maintaining phone and fax lines for 10 years under this requirement. Can I deduct these expenses even though the practice is closed and I have no continuing business income?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2026 04:11:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>drbill1202</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-11T04:11:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Business expenses after closing a sole proprietorship</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/business-taxes/discussion/re-business-expenses-after-closing-a-sole-proprietorship/01/3173945#M105365</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;No. &amp;nbsp;Once the business has been closed, and you filed your final return, you can no longer claim expenses for the business.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2024 21:02:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Vanessa A</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-02-07T21:02:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Business expenses after closing a sole proprietorship</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/business-taxes/discussion/re-business-expenses-after-closing-a-sole-proprietorship/01/3174572#M105379</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the prompt reply.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2024 23:49:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/business-taxes/discussion/re-business-expenses-after-closing-a-sole-proprietorship/01/3174572#M105379</guid>
      <dc:creator>drbill1202</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-02-07T23:49:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Business expenses after closing a sole proprietorship</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/business-taxes/discussion/re-business-expenses-after-closing-a-sole-proprietorship/01/3175184#M105391</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Were you a sole proprietor (Schedule C)?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, see IRS Revenue Ruling 67-12.&amp;nbsp; If it is a corporation, they maybe, with slightly different rules.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Accordingly, the ordinary and necessary expenses, incurred in a trade or business in prior years&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;and paid in the current taxable year, by an individual taxpayer, using the cash receipts and&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;disbursements method of accounting, are deductible under section 162 of the Code, even though&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;the business has been discontinued.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.bradfordtaxinstitute.com/Endnotes/Rev_Rul_67-12.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.bradfordtaxinstitute.com/Endnotes/Rev_Rul_67-12.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2024 05:37:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/business-taxes/discussion/re-business-expenses-after-closing-a-sole-proprietorship/01/3175184#M105391</guid>
      <dc:creator>AmeliesUncle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-02-08T05:37:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Business expenses after closing a sole proprietorship</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/business-taxes/discussion/re-business-expenses-after-closing-a-sole-proprietorship/01/3175496#M105398</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/729456"&gt;@AmeliesUncle&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;I am not sure that the revenue ruling is exactly on point for this specific question.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The facts in the revenue ruling cited were that the expenses were &lt;U&gt;incurred while the taxpayer was in a trade or business&lt;/U&gt;, but just wasn't able to pay at the time.&amp;nbsp; The debt was then paid subsequent to the business closing.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Those aren't the facts for this particular individual; the expenses in question are incurred after the close of the trade or business.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;While I may take a "gray" position, it would depend on whether the phone and fax were only "used" for the prior medical practice.&amp;nbsp; Since I am fairly certain the costs we are talking about are not too significant, I am not sure the risk vs reward are beneficial.&amp;nbsp; I would be fairly certain that the IRS, if audited, would not acquiesce based on the revenue procedure.&amp;nbsp; At that point, the costs to fight the battle most likely exceed any tax benefit.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2024 15:23:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Rick19744</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-02-08T15:23:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Business expenses after closing a sole proprietorship</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/business-taxes/discussion/re-business-expenses-after-closing-a-sole-proprietorship/01/3175694#M105408</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That's a good point that my citation wasn't exactly on track.&amp;nbsp; However, I have read rulings/guidance of some sort that indicated business expenses after the business closes would be deductible (I don't have citations handy).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;While also not exactly on track and I would need to look it up to remind myself of the details, I think the Arrowsmith case allowed a deduction (capital loss) of an expense of a corporation that happened after the corporation closed.&amp;nbsp; But as I said, I would need to re-read that case to see how 'on point' that is.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2024 15:46:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/business-taxes/discussion/re-business-expenses-after-closing-a-sole-proprietorship/01/3175694#M105408</guid>
      <dc:creator>AmeliesUncle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-02-08T15:46:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Business expenses after closing a sole proprietorship</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/business-taxes/discussion/re-business-expenses-after-closing-a-sole-proprietorship/01/3175880#M105420</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;There are a few cases that deal with expenses post liquidation or closing.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;These are generally some type of corporation; C or S.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The facts, once again, are not near the same facts as what was stated in the facts in this post.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Then, in the above few cases, the expenses paid as a result of the issue, are classified as capital losses, and are also a result of some issue related to when the business was actually in business.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm just not sure the risk vs reward is worth it, and I just don't see facts on point with what was originally stated in the original post.&amp;nbsp; The tax impact is just not that significant.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I just think the stretch is too much for these facts.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But that's just my opinion.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2024 16:48:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Rick19744</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-02-08T16:48:13Z</dc:date>
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