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    <title>topic Before my swimming pool contractor recent filing for chapter 7 bankruptcy, I had paid him $56325.
Can I claim a loss on my 2025 tax year for the amount of $56325? in Deductions &amp; credits</title>
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    <description>Can I claim legal fees I incurred?</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 20:31:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Before my swimming pool contractor recent filing for chapter 7 bankruptcy, I had paid him $56325.
Can I claim a loss on my 2025 tax year for the amount of $56325?</title>
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      <description>Can I claim legal fees I incurred?</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 20:31:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Before my swimming pool contractor recent filing for chapter 7 bankruptcy, I had paid him $56325.Can I claim a loss on my 2025 tax year for the amount of $56325?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Deleted.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:11:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Before my swimming pool contractor recent filing for chapter 7 bankruptcy, I had paid him $56325.Can I claim a loss on my 2025 tax year for the amount of $56325?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes, with some limitation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This is not a casualty loss, it is non-business bad debt. &amp;nbsp;This is deductible as a capital loss on schedule D. &amp;nbsp;See these links to start.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc453" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc453&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/irs-tax-return/how-to-report-non-business-bad-debt-on-a-tax-return/L1mUzQFtB" target="_blank"&gt;https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/irs-tax-return/how-to-report-non-business-bad-debt-on-a-tax-return/L1mUzQFtB&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The first point is that the debt amount must be final and uncollectible, and you must make every reasonable step to collect. &amp;nbsp;If the contractor is in bankruptcy, you must contact the court to be listed as a creditor. &amp;nbsp;You can't deduct any loss if there is a possibility of collecting. &amp;nbsp;This might mean that you can't deduct the loss until the bankruptcy case is closed. &amp;nbsp;For example, if the case does not close until 2026 and you recover $5000, you could deduct the remaining $51,000 on your 2026 tax return. &amp;nbsp; If audited, you must be able to show the IRS how you determined that the debt was uncollectible and the date it became uncollectible.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Then, this is a capital loss on schedule D. &amp;nbsp;It can offset other capital gains, such as from sale of stocks. &amp;nbsp;If you don't have capital gains to offset, you can deduct $3000 in the first year, and the rest carries forward, and can be used to offset future capital gains or be deducted at $3000 per year until it is used up.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 22:26:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Opus 17</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: Before my swimming pool contractor recent filing for chapter 7 bankruptcy, I had paid him $56325.Can I claim a loss on my 2025 tax year for the amount of $56325?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;See solution by&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/341"&gt;@Opus 17&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:10:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Before my swimming pool contractor recent filing for chapter 7 bankruptcy, I had paid him $56325.Can I claim a loss on my 2025 tax year for the amount of $56325?</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-before-my-swimming-pool-contractor-recent-filing-for-chapter-7-bankruptcy-i-had-paid-him-56325/01/3715601#M353974</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/305"&gt;@Bsch4477&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My view is that this is not a bad debt but a loss related to improvement in personal property which is not deductible but could be added to the cost basis of the home. I am assuming that this is a personal residence.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But that's what a non-business bad debt is. &amp;nbsp;Quoting publication 550,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="inlinehd lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Insolvency of contractor.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="inlinehd lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="inlinep"&gt;You can take a bad debt deduction for the amount you deposit with a contractor if the contractor becomes insolvent and you are unable to recover your deposit. If the deposit is for work unrelated to your trade or business, it is a nonbusiness bad debt deduction.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="inlinehd lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="inlinehd lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;(page 84&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p550.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p550.pdf&lt;/A&gt;)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="inlinehd"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="inlinehd"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="inlinep"&gt;Now, the amount may be tricky to determine. &amp;nbsp;If you paid a $50,000 deposit and part of the work was done, and you had to pay someone else to finish, your loss probably isn't the whole amount. &amp;nbsp; And your loss can't be more than you paid in -- suppose you paid $50,000 as the whole price of the job, and the work was so bad the next contractor had to tear it all out and start over so that the final cost was $70,000, your bad debt loss is only $50,000. &amp;nbsp;(You could probably sue contractor #1 for the full $70,000, but if we are talking about a non-business bad debt discussion then we must already assume the business is worthless and the debt is non-collectible.) &amp;nbsp;And you can't deduct personal legal expenses, if you paid a $50,000 deposit and then paid an extra $5000 to be represented at the bankruptcy proceedings, your deductible loss is only $50,000 and you can't recover legal fees.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="inlinehd"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="inlinehd"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="inlinep"&gt;But the basic case of paying a contractor to work on your home and they go bankrupt before it is completed is definitely a non-business bad debt.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="inlinep"&gt;&lt;A class="indexterm" name="idm140364940058464" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A class="indexterm" name="idm140364940057648" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 23:51:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Opus 17</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-09T23:51:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Before my swimming pool contractor recent filing for chapter 7 bankruptcy, I had paid him $56325.Can I claim a loss on my 2025 tax year for the amount of $56325?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes. I see that. You are correct (as usual).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:08:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Bsch4477</dc:creator>
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