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    <title>topic Re: Tax implication for selling a vehicle used 80% for business in Deductions &amp; credits</title>
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    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/5347241"&gt;@markorec&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you very much. Now I think I have a clearer picture. In 2026 based on my initial scenario, the "clawback" would be approx 12K total but &amp;nbsp;that's only Federal not SE income correct?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You have been a huge help. Now I hope the Turbotax program will calculate everything correctly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, only income tax, not SE tax.&amp;nbsp; And only paying income tax on $12k after SAVING tax (both income and SE tax) on $27k seems great.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Unfortunately, TurboTax is NOT set up for reporting vehicles (and other assets) that have varied in business percentage each year.&amp;nbsp; While you could enter the manually calculated numbers (like I explained above) in the "Sale of Business Property" section, I don't think that section affects things like the Qualified Business Income deduction and the Home Office limit, like it should.&amp;nbsp; You may consider a tax professional.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 18:49:54 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>AmeliesUncle</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-10-17T18:49:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Tax implication for selling a vehicle used 80% for business</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/tax-implication-for-selling-a-vehicle-used-80-for-business/01/3707745#M353465</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am considering selling my vehicle but I am concerned with the tax implications of the timing of the sale.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Vehicle was used 80% for business in 2024 and will be 80% for 2025 if I keep it to the end of the year.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Original purchase price was $54,875. I did not take bonus or 179 deduction. Using 5 yr MACRS.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2024 depreciation was 20% per MACRS ($10,975) multiplied by 80% = $8,780&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2025 depreciation will be 32% per MACRS ($17,560) multiplied by 80% = $14,048.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I decide to sell the vehicle in January of 2026 and trade in for a new vehicle, I am concerned about using the right numbers for the calculation. If a dealer offers me $36,000 for my vehicle is the calculation as follows:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;$54,875-all depreciation ($22,828) = $32,047 basis&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;$36,000 sale -$32,047 = $3,953 gain&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Or do I multiply either of those numbers by 80%?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I want to know the right formula because I feel if I wait another year and take another approx $8400 in depreciation and then trade in for say $34,000, the spread becomes even greater resulting in a bigger tax bite.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is that correct or am I calculating incorrectly? Any help is greatly appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2025 20:29:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>markorec</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-10-16T20:29:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Tax implication for selling a vehicle used 80% for business</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-tax-implication-for-selling-a-vehicle-used-80-for-business/01/3707907#M353484</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/5347241"&gt;@markorec&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2024 depreciation was 20% per MACRS ($10,975) multiplied by 80% = $8,780&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2025 depreciation will be 32% per MACRS ($17,560) multiplied by 80% = $14,048.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I decide to sell the vehicle in January of 2026 and trade in for a new vehicle, I am concerned about using the right numbers for the calculation. If a dealer offers me $36,000 for my vehicle is the calculation as follows:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;$54,875-all depreciation ($22,828) = $32,047 basis&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;$36,000 sale -$32,047 = $3,953 gain&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Or do I multiply either of those numbers by 80%?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;if I wait another year and take another approx $8400 in depreciation and then trade in for say $34,000, the spread becomes even greater resulting in a bigger tax bite.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The year you take it out of service you only get a half-year of depreciation.&amp;nbsp; If you take it out of service in 2025, you will only get $7,024 of depreciation.&amp;nbsp; If you take it out of service in 2026, you'll get $14,048 of depreciation for 2025 and $4,214 in 2026 (based on exactly 80% business use).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;$54,875 x 80% = $43,900 business basis&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;$43,900 - $27,042 depreciation = $16,858 Adjusted Business Basis&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;$36,000 x 80% = $28,800 Business Sale Price&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;$28,800 - $16,858 = $11,942 taxable gain&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, when you refer to a bigger "tax bite", are you meaning that is a good way or a bad way?&amp;nbsp; The additional depreciation is either neutral or is HELPING you.&amp;nbsp; You are getting a deduction for that depreciation, so paying the recapture when it sells is just breaking it even.&amp;nbsp; Or if this is a Schedule C business, you are getting a deduction for BOTH income tax AND Self-Employment Tax, and then selling it is only increases income tax (no effect on self-employment tax).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 16:08:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AmeliesUncle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-10-17T16:08:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Tax implication for selling a vehicle used 80% for business</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-tax-implication-for-selling-a-vehicle-used-80-for-business/01/3707923#M353487</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;ok so the correct way to calculate it is to multiply both the original purchase price AND the sale price by 80%?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I say bigger tax bite, I mean bigger clawback of depreciation because I am getting more tax deductible depreciation each year than actual depreciation of the selling price. For instance, in 2026 half a year depreciation is $4214 but another half a year waiting to sell the car may only reduce sale price by $2000.Eventually I am at zero basis but the car may still be worth 25K. So the longer I wait to sell, the more I will owe back in the year of the sale. Does that make sense?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also, if I don't have exactly 80% business usage each year, Do I do a weighted average of all the years?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And if I put a new car in as a replacement in 2026, do I get half a year on the old car at $4214 and first year (20%) for the replacement? Is the half year the same no matter what date I actually replace it in 2026?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sorry for all the questions, first time with a business vehicle replacement.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 16:53:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>markorec</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-10-17T16:53:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Tax implication for selling a vehicle used 80% for business</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-tax-implication-for-selling-a-vehicle-used-80-for-business/01/3707930#M353488</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/5347241"&gt;@markorec&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;ok so the correct way to calculate it is to multiply both the original purchase price AND the sale price by 80%?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For instance, in 2026 half a year depreciation is $4214 but another half a year waiting to sell the car may only reduce sale price by $2000.Eventually I am at zero basis but the car may still be worth 25K. So the longer I wait to sell, the more I will owe back in the year of the sale. Does that make sense?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also, if I don't have exactly 80% business usage each year, Do I do a weighted average of all the years?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And if I put a new car in as a replacement in 2026, do I get half a year on the old car at $4214 and first year (20%) for the replacement? Is the half year the same no matter what date I actually replace it in 2026?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, both by 80%.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No, you are thinking about it wrong.&amp;nbsp; You get getting an extra deduction of $4214 (for both income tax and SE tax), but are worried it will eventually increase your income by $2214 (for only income tax)?&amp;nbsp; If the vehicle was 100% business use and fully depreciated, you would be getting a $54,875 of deductions (for both income tax and SE tax), and you are worried about it resulting in $25,000 of income (for only income tax)?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Or maybe I'll explain it this way:&amp;nbsp; For simplicity, let's say you are in the 22% Federal tax bracket and SE tax is 14% (and for simple explanation, some of my numbers will be garbled with 100% business use).&amp;nbsp; The extra $4214 of depreciation will save you about $1517 this year.&amp;nbsp; When it is sold, yes, the "clawback" you are thinking of (an extra $2214 of income) will result in an extra $487-ish of tax.&amp;nbsp; But saving $1517 now and only needing to pay $487-ish when it is sold is a GOOD thing.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You would use the average (not a "weighted" average"), based on the combined business miles of all years versus the TOTAL miles of all years (odometer reading when it was bought and the odometer reading when it is sold).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, you would get half a year of the old vehicle and then the new depreciation of the new vehicle.&amp;nbsp; In this case, yes, it is half regardless of when it is sold.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;When I say "in this case", it is because your first year was subject to half-year (a full first year is actually 40%, but the 20% you used has the half-year built in to it).&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;There are some circumstances that the half-year rule is changed to a mid-quarter rule, but because you bought the vehicle subject to the half-year rule (you said 20%, which is half-year), that is what applies to the sale.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 17:30:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AmeliesUncle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-10-17T17:30:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Tax implication for selling a vehicle used 80% for business</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you very much. Now I think I have a clearer picture. In 2026 based on my initial scenario, the "clawback" would be approx 12K total but &amp;nbsp;that's only Federal not SE income correct?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You have been a huge help. Now I hope the Turbotax program will calculate everything correctly.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 18:33:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>markorec</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-10-17T18:33:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Tax implication for selling a vehicle used 80% for business</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/5347241"&gt;@markorec&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you very much. Now I think I have a clearer picture. In 2026 based on my initial scenario, the "clawback" would be approx 12K total but &amp;nbsp;that's only Federal not SE income correct?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You have been a huge help. Now I hope the Turbotax program will calculate everything correctly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, only income tax, not SE tax.&amp;nbsp; And only paying income tax on $12k after SAVING tax (both income and SE tax) on $27k seems great.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Unfortunately, TurboTax is NOT set up for reporting vehicles (and other assets) that have varied in business percentage each year.&amp;nbsp; While you could enter the manually calculated numbers (like I explained above) in the "Sale of Business Property" section, I don't think that section affects things like the Qualified Business Income deduction and the Home Office limit, like it should.&amp;nbsp; You may consider a tax professional.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 18:49:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AmeliesUncle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-10-17T18:49:54Z</dc:date>
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