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    <title>topic Pre paid medical expense rule? in Deductions &amp; credits</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;my wife is going through IVF. We purchased a bundled package for the IVF. &amp;nbsp;This was paid in full with a combination of cash, credit and a personal loan in December 2024. &amp;nbsp;The IVF started in January 2025 and could continue throughout the year. &amp;nbsp; As part of the package, we had to pay in full before the IVF was started. &amp;nbsp;We did receive a receipt for payment of the package. &amp;nbsp;Can we deduct this as a medical expense on our 2024 tax return? &amp;nbsp;I read pub 502 that says “&lt;SPAN&gt;You can include only the medical and dental expense you paid this year, but generally not payments for medical or dental care you will receive in a future year.” &amp;nbsp;But I am not sure how this is interpreted by the irs. &amp;nbsp;This was not a payment on an account, it was accepted as paid in full.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The total paid is greater than 7.5% of our AGI and we also have mortgage interest and state/local taxes that we would include if itemizing to make it all worth it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;floyd&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 00:51:37 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Floydklonster</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-01-24T00:51:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Pre paid medical expense rule?</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/pre-paid-medical-expense-rule/01/3431639#M330127</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;my wife is going through IVF. We purchased a bundled package for the IVF. &amp;nbsp;This was paid in full with a combination of cash, credit and a personal loan in December 2024. &amp;nbsp;The IVF started in January 2025 and could continue throughout the year. &amp;nbsp; As part of the package, we had to pay in full before the IVF was started. &amp;nbsp;We did receive a receipt for payment of the package. &amp;nbsp;Can we deduct this as a medical expense on our 2024 tax return? &amp;nbsp;I read pub 502 that says “&lt;SPAN&gt;You can include only the medical and dental expense you paid this year, but generally not payments for medical or dental care you will receive in a future year.” &amp;nbsp;But I am not sure how this is interpreted by the irs. &amp;nbsp;This was not a payment on an account, it was accepted as paid in full.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The total paid is greater than 7.5% of our AGI and we also have mortgage interest and state/local taxes that we would include if itemizing to make it all worth it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;floyd&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 00:51:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Floydklonster</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-01-24T00:51:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pre paid medical expense rule?</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-pre-paid-medical-expense-rule/01/3432532#M330235</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It depends. I am thinking that you must have been going to the doctor and discussing the issue in 2024 or you would not have made a payment. This would make the payment part of your ongoing medical care rather than a future expense. I could only find one court case related to IVF and it was not related to your case in any manner.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you had any visits with the doctor, I feel the deduction is valid.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 18:18:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AmyC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-01-24T18:18:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pre paid medical expense rule?</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-pre-paid-medical-expense-rule/01/3432584#M330244</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Later in publication 502 it says,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Generally, you can't include in medical expenses current payments for medical care (including medical insurance) to be provided &lt;U&gt;substantially beyond the end of the year&lt;/U&gt;.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;The IRS does not define "substantially&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;beyond" the end of the year.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The idea is that you can't deduct pre-paid medical care too far in advance, and I think (but am not sure) that the IRS is targeting concierge medical arrangements and other situations where you are not ill but pay in advance in case you get ill.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here, you have a medical need in 2024 (IVF is deductible in general), and your actual treatment started in January 2025 (which is not "substantially" past the end of 2024). &amp;nbsp;So I would say you are find to deduct in 2024.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 18:48:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Opus 17</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-01-24T18:48:36Z</dc:date>
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