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    <title>topic Unemployment Income: Help with 1040 Sched. 1 line 8 and Calif Sched. CA (540) line 8f. in Deductions &amp; credits</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;I completed and filed 2020 Federal, but now as I am trying to manually complete 2020 Calif State return (using downloaded forms because TT no longer has a 2020 CA download avail.).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Quest. 1----&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;What amount should be on Sched 1 1040 line 8?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Looking at the 2020 Sched 1- 1040 instructions for line 7 &amp;amp; 8. I received $27,400 in CA unemployment benefits in 2020.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Instr. for line 7&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt; seem clear that I should enter the 10,200 Fed exclusion amount of $10,200 in line 8 (I assume of Sched. 1 1040). But I see I had entered on that line in my already filed form&amp;nbsp; -20,400. I don't recall how I arrived at 'that' amount.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Instr. for line 8&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt; says to use the Unemployment Comp. Exclusion Worksheet. I copied that from the Sched 1 Instr.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;Line 1:&lt;/STRONG&gt; add three numbers from 1040 lines 1-7. Done&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;Line 2:&amp;nbsp; &lt;/STRONG&gt;Sched. 1 lines 1-6, just Bus. Income for me. Done&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;This is where I get lost...&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Line 3: &lt;/STRONG&gt;"Use Line 8 Instr. to determine the amount to include on SCh. 1 line 8, and enter here" ... [Sch. 1 line 8 Instr. from the 1040 Sch. 1 Instructions says to&amp;nbsp; "use the Unempl. Comp. Exclusion worksheet! "??? this is what I am trying to fill out???]&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Quest. 2----&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;[What form "Use line 8 Instr." is the UCE Worksheet&amp;nbsp; asking me to refer to?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Quest. 3----&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;-- Am I supposed to enter -10,200 or -20,400 into line 3 on this UCE Wrk Sheet?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; Line 10:&lt;/STRONG&gt; amount is $10,200 (pos. # I assume)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;Line 11:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Subtract&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/U&gt; Line 10 (pos. $10,200) from line 3 (either a -20,400 or -10,200) and enter the number on Sched. 1 line 8.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Quest. 4----&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;Am I correct that subtracting the positive 10,200 from the potential line 3 amounts would yield either -30,600 or -20,400?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Quest. 5---- &lt;/STRONG&gt;What amounts would be entered on CA (540) Calif. Adjustments line 8f, Column A, and 8f Column C?&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;It may be me, but I cannot make any sense of these instructions after hours trying. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;This is a wall I have hit, and cannot get past. My wife very anxious to get this 2020 plus the 2021 State returns done tomorrow morning, then on to 2022 and 2023 Fed &amp;amp; State, before Monday to mail them all off. She has been exasperated and I cannot blame her.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;Thanks for any help, all.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;Dave&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:01:26 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>davekro</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-01-11T09:01:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Unemployment Income: Help with 1040 Sched. 1 line 8 and Calif Sched. CA (540) line 8f.</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/unemployment-income-help-with-1040-sched-1-line-8-and-calif-sched-ca-540-line-8f/01/3417811#M328698</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I completed and filed 2020 Federal, but now as I am trying to manually complete 2020 Calif State return (using downloaded forms because TT no longer has a 2020 CA download avail.).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Quest. 1----&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;What amount should be on Sched 1 1040 line 8?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Looking at the 2020 Sched 1- 1040 instructions for line 7 &amp;amp; 8. I received $27,400 in CA unemployment benefits in 2020.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Instr. for line 7&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt; seem clear that I should enter the 10,200 Fed exclusion amount of $10,200 in line 8 (I assume of Sched. 1 1040). But I see I had entered on that line in my already filed form&amp;nbsp; -20,400. I don't recall how I arrived at 'that' amount.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Instr. for line 8&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt; says to use the Unemployment Comp. Exclusion Worksheet. I copied that from the Sched 1 Instr.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;Line 1:&lt;/STRONG&gt; add three numbers from 1040 lines 1-7. Done&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;Line 2:&amp;nbsp; &lt;/STRONG&gt;Sched. 1 lines 1-6, just Bus. Income for me. Done&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;This is where I get lost...&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Line 3: &lt;/STRONG&gt;"Use Line 8 Instr. to determine the amount to include on SCh. 1 line 8, and enter here" ... [Sch. 1 line 8 Instr. from the 1040 Sch. 1 Instructions says to&amp;nbsp; "use the Unempl. Comp. Exclusion worksheet! "??? this is what I am trying to fill out???]&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Quest. 2----&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;[What form "Use line 8 Instr." is the UCE Worksheet&amp;nbsp; asking me to refer to?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Quest. 3----&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;-- Am I supposed to enter -10,200 or -20,400 into line 3 on this UCE Wrk Sheet?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; Line 10:&lt;/STRONG&gt; amount is $10,200 (pos. # I assume)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;Line 11:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Subtract&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/U&gt; Line 10 (pos. $10,200) from line 3 (either a -20,400 or -10,200) and enter the number on Sched. 1 line 8.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Quest. 4----&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;Am I correct that subtracting the positive 10,200 from the potential line 3 amounts would yield either -30,600 or -20,400?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Quest. 5---- &lt;/STRONG&gt;What amounts would be entered on CA (540) Calif. Adjustments line 8f, Column A, and 8f Column C?&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;It may be me, but I cannot make any sense of these instructions after hours trying. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;This is a wall I have hit, and cannot get past. My wife very anxious to get this 2020 plus the 2021 State returns done tomorrow morning, then on to 2022 and 2023 Fed &amp;amp; State, before Monday to mail them all off. She has been exasperated and I cannot blame her.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;Thanks for any help, all.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;Dave&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:01:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>davekro</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-01-11T09:01:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unemployment Income: Help with 1040 Sched. 1 line 8 and Calif Sched. CA (540) line 8f.</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Unfortunately, this is considered out of scope due to the age of the return. &amp;nbsp;Call the state and get them to walk you through it. For general questions, call CA FTB at 800-852-5711 open 8-5 Monday - Friday.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.ftb.ca.gov/about-ftb/newsroom/2020-tax-return-changes/unemployment-and-2020-tax-returns.html" target="_blank"&gt;Unemployment and 2020 tax returns | FTB.ca.gov&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best wishes!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2025 18:35:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AmyC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-01-15T18:35:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unemployment Income: Help with 1040 Sched. 1 line 8 and Calif Sched. CA (540) line 8f.</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;All my returns for state and federal '20 through '23 are in the mail.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you all for your help on the various threads here in this wonderful community.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Dave&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2025 20:27:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>davekro</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-01-15T20:27:55Z</dc:date>
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