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    <title>topic Pre-paid principal on investment property in Deductions &amp; credits</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, I'm trying to figure out the tax basis for a rental property I'm selling.&amp;nbsp; Let's say I bought the property for $500 with $400 mortgage and $100 equity.&amp;nbsp; For simplicity, let's say that the loan is now down to $100 because I prepaid $300 and the net proceeds, if the sale price is $600, are $600-100=500.&amp;nbsp; Had I not prepaid the mortgage, the net proceeds would be $600-400=200.&amp;nbsp; So the question is, how do I factor the $300 I prepaid in the tax basis and does it make sense I take out a loan of $300 just before selling the property to recover the principal prepaid?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 15 Dec 2024 20:19:39 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-12-15T20:19:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Pre-paid principal on investment property</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/pre-paid-principal-on-investment-property/01/3408679#M327811</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, I'm trying to figure out the tax basis for a rental property I'm selling.&amp;nbsp; Let's say I bought the property for $500 with $400 mortgage and $100 equity.&amp;nbsp; For simplicity, let's say that the loan is now down to $100 because I prepaid $300 and the net proceeds, if the sale price is $600, are $600-100=500.&amp;nbsp; Had I not prepaid the mortgage, the net proceeds would be $600-400=200.&amp;nbsp; So the question is, how do I factor the $300 I prepaid in the tax basis and does it make sense I take out a loan of $300 just before selling the property to recover the principal prepaid?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Dec 2024 20:19:39 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-12-15T20:19:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pre-paid principal on investment property</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-pre-paid-principal-on-investment-property/01/3408714#M327817</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;, the amount of mortgage principal owed&amp;nbsp; has NO place in the gain/loss computation ( for tax purposes )&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In general&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(a)&amp;nbsp; Basis&amp;nbsp; in the property = Acquisition COST + plus cost of any improvements during the&amp;nbsp; holding period.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(b) Depreciation Basis&amp;nbsp; =&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Acquisition&amp;nbsp; Cost LESS&amp;nbsp; Land / non-depreciable&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Cost.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; It is the cost of the improvements. It is often&amp;nbsp; 2/3 or 1/2 of the&amp;nbsp; purchase price, sometimes allocated&amp;nbsp; in multi-story&amp;nbsp; buildings with many condos.&amp;nbsp; Note annual depreciation is based on&amp;nbsp; Depreciation Basis&amp;nbsp; and the&amp;nbsp; Useful Life of the asset&amp;nbsp; ( residential property in the US has a life of 27.5&amp;nbsp; years&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(c)&amp;nbsp; Accumulated&amp;nbsp; Depreciation&amp;nbsp; = allowable depreciation ( whether recognized or not ) over the holding period.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(d) Sales Expenses = Allowable / customary and necessary expenses associated with disposition&amp;nbsp; ( such as sale commission, Transfer tax, title work, immediate repair&amp;nbsp; work etc. expressly for the sale etc. etc. )&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(e)&amp;nbsp; At&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;disposition / sale&amp;nbsp; , the&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;cost basis&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; =&amp;nbsp; Original Basis [ item&amp;nbsp; (a) above]&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;LESS&amp;nbsp; Accumulated Depreciation [ item (c) above ].&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(f )&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Taxable Gain/Loss =&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Sales Proceeds&amp;nbsp; ( i.e.&amp;nbsp; Sales Price LESS Sales Expenses )&amp;nbsp; LESS &lt;STRONG&gt;COST BASIS&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;Note that only that portion of the gain above/beyond Accumulated depreciation is treated as Capital gain the rest is ordinary gain.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(g)&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Actual amount received by you&amp;nbsp; before taxes&amp;nbsp; is&amp;nbsp; Sales Price LESS&amp;nbsp; Loan Balance.&amp;nbsp; However this has nothing to do&amp;nbsp; with the taxable gain/loss computation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Is there more I can do for you ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Dec 2024 22:22:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>pk</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-12-15T22:22:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pre-paid principal on investment property</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-pre-paid-principal-on-investment-property/01/3408813#M327825</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Loans have nothing to do with cost basis. &amp;nbsp;Your starting basis is $500. &amp;nbsp;Then, you can include the cost of permanent improvements, and you must subtract depreciation you claimed or could have claimed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Let's go way from a rental and look at a simple investment. &amp;nbsp;You buy for $500 and sell for $1000. &amp;nbsp;You have a $500 capital gain. &amp;nbsp;Suppose you paid all cash, and get $1000 of proceeds. &amp;nbsp;Your gain is $500. &amp;nbsp;Suppose you paid $100 down and $400 loan, therefore you only get $500 proceeds after selling. &amp;nbsp;Your gain is still $500. &amp;nbsp;Suppose you refinanced (borrowed) an additional $500, so your loan was $900. &amp;nbsp;You still have a capital gains of $500, the difference is just that you took some of the proceeds early as part of the loan.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2024 15:10:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-pre-paid-principal-on-investment-property/01/3408813#M327825</guid>
      <dc:creator>Opus 17</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-12-16T15:10:37Z</dc:date>
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