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    <title>topic Re: Deduct business expense against stock capital gains in Deductions &amp; credits</title>
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    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11580"&gt;@stech&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Have business loss for straight 5 yrs, wouldn’t raise red flag?&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;The factors the IRS uses to determine whether you are operating with an actual profit motive are set forth in Treas. Reg.&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN class="markedContent"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;§1.183-2(b):&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="markedContent"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1. the manner in which the taxpayer carried on the activity,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;2. the expertise of the taxpayer or his or her advisers,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;3. the time and effort expended by the taxpayer in carrying on the activity,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;4. the expectation that the assets used in the activity may appreciate in value,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;5. the success of the taxpayer in carrying on other similar or dissimilar activities,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;6. the taxpayer’s history of income or loss with respect to the activity,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;7. the amount of occasional profits, if any, which are earned,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;8. the financial status of the taxpayer, and&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;9. elements of personal pleasure or recreation&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="markedContent"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;See&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/26/1.183-2" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow noreferrer"&gt;https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/26/1.183-2&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;A id="link_645a5467e29baa" class="lia-link-navigation original-post-link" href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-s-corp-losses/01/2802096#M1015441" target="_blank"&gt;View solution in original post&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2022 15:57:20 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous_</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-12-18T15:57:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Deduct business expense against stock capital gains</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/deduct-business-expense-against-stock-capital-gains/01/2803208#M267812</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have asked this before and thread went too long. Looking for clear instruction or video to how to file this&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i am day trader and have related expenses. Like phone, office rent etc. I have an LLC &amp;nbsp;opened to offset expenses. My issue is that all expenses goes to Sch C and capitals on Sch D. How does it offset. My total expenses are $5k and capital Gaines are $20k&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;currently my Sch C is negative which makes me nervous as no income on Sch C&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2026 07:19:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>stech</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-10T07:19:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Deduct business expense against stock capital gains</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-deduct-business-expense-against-stock-capital-gains/01/2803217#M267813</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;See&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc429" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc429&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;You are reporting correctly.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2022 03:48:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous_</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-12-18T03:48:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Deduct business expense against stock capital gains</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-deduct-business-expense-against-stock-capital-gains/01/2803288#M267815</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Have business loss for straight 5 yrs, wouldn’t raise red flag? Also I have two businesses. So doesn’t that mean I would be offsetting my losses with other business? Since everything rolls up to 1040 and net?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2022 15:50:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>stech</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-12-18T15:50:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Deduct business expense against stock capital gains</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-deduct-business-expense-against-stock-capital-gains/01/2803289#M267816</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you have two different businesses, then you should be filing two Schedules C.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;See&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i1040sc#en_US_2022_publink24329wd0e493" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i1040sc#en_US_2022_publink24329wd0e493&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2022 15:53:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous_</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-12-18T15:53:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Deduct business expense against stock capital gains</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-deduct-business-expense-against-stock-capital-gains/01/2803292#M267817</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11580"&gt;@stech&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Have business loss for straight 5 yrs, wouldn’t raise red flag?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The factors the IRS uses to determine whether you are operating with an actual profit motive are set forth in Treas. Reg.&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN class="markedContent"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;§1.183-2(b):&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="markedContent"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1. the manner in which the taxpayer carried on the activity,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;2. the expertise of the taxpayer or his or her advisers,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;3. the time and effort expended by the taxpayer in carrying on the activity,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;4. the expectation that the assets used in the activity may appreciate in value,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;5. the success of the taxpayer in carrying on other similar or dissimilar activities,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;6. the taxpayer’s history of income or loss with respect to the activity,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;7. the amount of occasional profits, if any, which are earned,&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;8. the financial status of the taxpayer, and&lt;BR role="presentation" /&gt;9. elements of personal pleasure or recreation&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="markedContent"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;See&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/26/1.183-2" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow noreferrer"&gt;https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/26/1.183-2&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;A id="link_645a5467e29baa" class="lia-link-navigation original-post-link" href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-s-corp-losses/01/2802096#M1015441" target="_blank"&gt;View solution in original post&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2022 15:57:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous_</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-12-18T15:57:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Deduct business expense against stock capital gains</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Right. I know.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;doesn’t both Sch C net goes to one line item on 1040 and above is capital gain? If I have $20k capital gain, $5 expenses related to it. Other business I have $10k income and $30k expenses. Wouldn’t my 1040 show $20k + $10- $5k - $30k = -$5k loss as one amount&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2022 16:00:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>stech</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-12-18T16:00:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Deduct business expense against stock capital gains</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-deduct-business-expense-against-stock-capital-gains/01/2803297#M267820</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;What do you mean by "show....as one amount"?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Your total business expenses would be used to offset your other income and gains.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2022 16:04:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous_</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-12-18T16:04:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Deduct business expense against stock capital gains</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-deduct-business-expense-against-stock-capital-gains/01/3076082#M295403</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello, Did you get the answer to this?&amp;nbsp; It seems most answers skirt the real question.&amp;nbsp; My tax accountant said the expense will lower the amount of tax on the gain, but as an example, the 5K in expenses will only net the % of your tax status, I.e. if you are at a 20% effective tax rate then the 5K will only reduce by $1000, but the 20K gain will have been taxed at short or long term %, whatever that ends up being for your situation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am still looking for a good business to offset my capital gains on a real estate sale.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2023 12:14:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>dydeanne55</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-05T12:14:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Deduct business expense against stock capital gains</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-deduct-business-expense-against-stock-capital-gains/01/3076103#M295411</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/86593"&gt;@dydeanne55&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:
&lt;P&gt;I am still looking for a good business to offset my capital gains on a real estate sale.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This thread, and the responses, address expenses associated with daytrading that are reported on Schedule C.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Please provide more details about your situation and you might want to start a new thread.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2023 13:48:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous_</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-05T13:48:00Z</dc:date>
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