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    <title>topic Form 4684 in Deductions &amp; credits</title>
    <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/form-4684/01/2570090#M245236</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I was scammed out of money last year, and want to mitigate the loss when I file my taxes.&amp;nbsp; Can I deduct this loss on Form 4684 Section C with TurboTax?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 08:25:00 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>PH24</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-03-09T08:25:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Form 4684</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/form-4684/01/2570090#M245236</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I was scammed out of money last year, and want to mitigate the loss when I file my taxes.&amp;nbsp; Can I deduct this loss on Form 4684 Section C with TurboTax?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 08:25:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>PH24</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-09T08:25:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Form 4684</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-form-4684/01/2570273#M245253</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It depends on the nature of the loss and when it occurred.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;From the instructions for Form 4684:&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;"For tax years 2018 through 2025, if&amp;nbsp; you are an individual, casualty and theft losses of personal-use property are deductible &lt;STRONG&gt;only if the losses are attributable to a federally declared disaster (federal casualty loss)."&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;This means it isn't likely that you can deduct the loss on Form 4684, unless you also had casualty gains during the same year (not common).&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;It is possible that you may be able to deduct your loss as a nonbusiness bad debt, or a loss on deposits, depending on the nature of the loss.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.irs.gov/publications/p547#en_US_2021_publink1000225212" target="_blank"&gt;Click here to learn more.&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:13:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-form-4684/01/2570273#M245253</guid>
      <dc:creator>JulieS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-03-10T21:13:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Form 4684</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-form-4684/01/2570321#M245257</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you Julie.&amp;nbsp; Do you have any more specifics on how I can deduct this&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;as a nonbusiness bad debt, or a loss on deposits?&amp;nbsp; Is that something a Turbotax expert could guide me through while filing?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:24:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-form-4684/01/2570321#M245257</guid>
      <dc:creator>PH24</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-03-10T21:24:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Form 4684</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-form-4684/01/2570546#M245277</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes, a tax expert could guide you through that if you request help from within the program.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;You may be able to use Section C of Form 4684 if your loss is due to a fraudulent investment arrangement, and you are a qualified investor.&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;To be considered a fraudulent investment arrangement the lead figure&amp;nbsp;of the fraud:&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;UL&gt; 
 &lt;LI&gt;Must have been charged&amp;nbsp;under state or federal law with the commission of fraud, embezzlement or a similar crime&amp;nbsp;that meets the definition of theft,&lt;/LI&gt; 
 &lt;LI&gt;Or was the subject of a state or federal criminal complaint (not withdrawn or dismissed) alleging the commission of a crime,&lt;/LI&gt; 
 &lt;LI&gt;Or a&amp;nbsp;receiver or trustee was appointed with respect to the arrangement or assets of the arrangement were frozen.&lt;/LI&gt; 
&lt;/UL&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;The qualified investor must be:&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;UL&gt; 
 &lt;LI&gt;A US person that,&lt;/LI&gt; 
 &lt;LI&gt;Did not have actual knowledge of the fraudulent nature of the investment arrangement prior to it becoming known to the general public; and&lt;/LI&gt; 
 &lt;LI&gt;The specified fraudulent arrangement is not a tax shelter, and&lt;/LI&gt; 
 &lt;LI&gt;That transferred cash or property to a specified fraudulent arrangement.&lt;/LI&gt; 
&lt;/UL&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;If all of the above are true, you can use Section C of Form 4684 to claim your loss.&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;If the loss doesn't meet the conditions above, you may be able to deduct a nonbusiness bad debt.&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;A debt becomes worthless when the surrounding facts and circumstances indicate there's no reasonable expectation that the debt will be repaid.&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;To show that a debt is worthless, you must establish that you've taken reasonable steps to collect the debt. It's not necessary to go to court if you can show that a judgment from the court would be uncollectible.&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;You may take the deduction only in the year the debt becomes worthless. You don't have to wait until a debt is due to determine that it's worthless.&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;The nonbusiness bad debt is recorded on the tax return as a short term capital loss, so it offsets capital gain income and up to $3000 can be deducted each year until the entire amount is used.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:11:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-form-4684/01/2570546#M245277</guid>
      <dc:creator>JulieS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-03-10T22:11:13Z</dc:date>
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