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    <title>topic Excess Roth Contribution - Net Income Attributable is Negative in Deductions &amp; credits</title>
    <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/excess-roth-contribution-net-income-attributable-is-negative/01/2512136#M239175</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I made an excess Roth IRA contribution of $1790. After talking with my financial company, they thought it would be best for me to withdrawal the excess, since it's prior to the tax deadline to avoid paying 6% penalty. When they calculated the net income attributable (NIA), it was negative meaning I really only needed to withdraw $1667. However, when I entered this information on Turbo Tax noting $6000/year contribution but $1667 withdrawal, they still say that I owe a penalty for excess contribution and have to pay a fee on the difference between those two numbers ($1790 minus $1667 - avery small amount but still concerning me that something isn't being translated that I don't actually need to withdraw that full excess amount). I believe I need to complete a 1099-R to avoid having to amend taxes once I actually receive this form next year, but I'm not sure what values to enter with the odd situation of having a negative NIA? Also, will completing a 1099-R reconcile the numbers, so TurboTax understands that I shouldn't have to pay a penalty on the difference between those two numbers?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 05:12:13 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>apunke</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-03-09T05:12:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Excess Roth Contribution - Net Income Attributable is Negative</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/excess-roth-contribution-net-income-attributable-is-negative/01/2512136#M239175</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I made an excess Roth IRA contribution of $1790. After talking with my financial company, they thought it would be best for me to withdrawal the excess, since it's prior to the tax deadline to avoid paying 6% penalty. When they calculated the net income attributable (NIA), it was negative meaning I really only needed to withdraw $1667. However, when I entered this information on Turbo Tax noting $6000/year contribution but $1667 withdrawal, they still say that I owe a penalty for excess contribution and have to pay a fee on the difference between those two numbers ($1790 minus $1667 - avery small amount but still concerning me that something isn't being translated that I don't actually need to withdraw that full excess amount). I believe I need to complete a 1099-R to avoid having to amend taxes once I actually receive this form next year, but I'm not sure what values to enter with the odd situation of having a negative NIA? Also, will completing a 1099-R reconcile the numbers, so TurboTax understands that I shouldn't have to pay a penalty on the difference between those two numbers?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 05:12:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/excess-roth-contribution-net-income-attributable-is-negative/01/2512136#M239175</guid>
      <dc:creator>apunke</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-09T05:12:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Excess Roth Contribution - Net Income Attributable is Negative</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-excess-roth-contribution-net-income-attributable-is-negative/01/2512551#M239221</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Please enter the $1,790&amp;nbsp;as withdrawn on the penalty screen. You withdrew the whole contribution but had a loss.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Login to your TurboTax Account&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Click on "&lt;STRONG&gt;Search&lt;/STRONG&gt;" on the top right and type “&lt;STRONG&gt;IRA contributions” &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Click on “&lt;STRONG&gt;Jump to IRA contributions"&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;You will get a 1099-R&amp;nbsp;2022 in 2023 with codes P and J for the withdrawal of excess contribution and earnings. This 1099-R will have to be included on your 2021 tax return and you have two options:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;You can wait until&amp;nbsp;you receive the 1099-R&amp;nbsp; 2022 in 2023 and amend your 2021 return or&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;You can&amp;nbsp;report it now in your 2021 return and ignore the 1099-R when it comes unless there is Box 4 Federal Tax withholding and/or Box 14 State withholding. Then you must enter the 2022 1099-R into the 2022 tax return since the withholding is reported in the year that the tax was withheld. The 2022 code P will not do anything in 2022 tax return but the withholding will be applied to 2022.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;To create a 1099-R in your 2021 return please follow the steps below:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Login to your TurboTax Account&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Click on the "&lt;STRONG&gt;Search&lt;/STRONG&gt;" on the top right and type “&lt;STRONG&gt;1099-R” &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Click on “&lt;STRONG&gt;Jump to 1099-R”&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Answer "&lt;STRONG&gt;Yes&lt;/STRONG&gt;" to "&lt;STRONG&gt;Did you get a 1099-R in 2021?&lt;/STRONG&gt;"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Select "&lt;STRONG&gt;I'll type it in myself&lt;/STRONG&gt;"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Box 1 enter total distribution (contribution minus loss)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Box 2a enter $0&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Box 7 enter J and P&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Click "&lt;STRONG&gt;Continue&lt;/STRONG&gt;"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;On the "&lt;STRONG&gt;Which year on Form 1099-R&lt;/STRONG&gt;" screen say that this is a 2022 1099-R.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2022 10:09:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-excess-roth-contribution-net-income-attributable-is-negative/01/2512551#M239221</guid>
      <dc:creator>DanaB27</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-03-01T10:09:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Excess Roth Contribution - Net Income Attributable is Negative</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-excess-roth-contribution-net-income-attributable-is-negative/01/2515031#M239467</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you! Just to make sure I understand the codes to enter on 1099-R. I see that Code J is "Early Distribution of Roth IRA" and Code P is "&lt;SPAN&gt;Excess contributions plus earnings/excess deferrals taxable in 2020". Code J makes sense to me, but Code P confuses me with the "2020" part...since it was in 2021? Can you explain that? I also saw Code 8 "Excess contributions plus earnings/excess deferrals (and/or earnings) taxable in 2021". Is this ever selected in this case?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:13:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-excess-roth-contribution-net-income-attributable-is-negative/01/2515031#M239467</guid>
      <dc:creator>apunke</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-02-23T22:13:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Excess Roth Contribution - Net Income Attributable is Negative</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-excess-roth-contribution-net-income-attributable-is-negative/01/2515093#M239477</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"&gt;Yes, code P will say in the drop-down menu "Return of contribution taxable in 2020" but you can ignore that since the follow-up question where you select that it is a 2022 Form 1099-R will tell TurboTax that it will be taxable in 2021.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:14px"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"&gt;The code P on a 2022 Form 1099-R will mean&amp;nbsp;"Return of contribution taxable in 2021"&amp;nbsp;which is why TurboTax will ask the follow-up question what year is on the form.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:26:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-excess-roth-contribution-net-income-attributable-is-negative/01/2515093#M239477</guid>
      <dc:creator>DanaB27</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-02-23T22:26:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Excess Roth Contribution - Net Income Attributable is Negative</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-excess-roth-contribution-net-income-attributable-is-negative/01/2678906#M257457</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/743920"&gt;@DanaB27&lt;/a&gt;So does TurboTax ultimately uses the 2021 question to decide to include this 1099-R with the tax return? Also, is all of the instructions ultimately creating just form 1099-R with P/J codes or does it create Form 5329 and/or Form 8606?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2022 01:58:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-excess-roth-contribution-net-income-attributable-is-negative/01/2678906#M257457</guid>
      <dc:creator>jr_ece</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-04-12T01:58:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Excess Roth Contribution - Net Income Attributable is Negative</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-excess-roth-contribution-net-income-attributable-is-negative/01/2679660#M257566</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;Yes, the follow-up question will let TurboTax know if the Form 1099-R with codes PJ belongs on your return. By creating Form 1099-R it will add the Form 1099-R, make the correct entries on line 4 of Form 1040 and create Form 5329.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4983017"&gt;@jr_ece&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2022 11:07:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-excess-roth-contribution-net-income-attributable-is-negative/01/2679660#M257566</guid>
      <dc:creator>DanaB27</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-04-12T11:07:37Z</dc:date>
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