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    <title>topic Non-qualified 529 withdrawal calc for Pennsylvania in State tax filing</title>
    <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/state-taxes/discussion/non-qualified-529-withdrawal-calc-for-pennsylvania/01/3524574#M173690</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;My son is filing independently this year for Fed/PA.&amp;nbsp; We (parents) are the owners of his 529 and made contributions from 2007 thru 2023.&amp;nbsp; He had 20K of fully qualified withdrawals in 2023. He took a withdrawal of 50K in 2024 which 10K of it was for educational expenses and the rest was unqualified.&amp;nbsp; Basis/Earnings is approximately 40/60 (and using rounded numbers for simplicity).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Seems to me that the remainder of 40K should ALL be taxable income to him in PA but the questions in TT are confusing me and ultimately&amp;nbsp; indicating that only 15K is taxable.&amp;nbsp; Is this right??&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Should the contributions question be zero - given that we made them, not him?&amp;nbsp; (Even so, they were all deducted on our PA returns over the years so I would still think the whole 40k would be taxable. )&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Appreciate any guidance you could give me here.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="715"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;Total 2024 Distributions&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 50,000&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;A&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;Reported on son's return (beneficiary)&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;Qualified Amount&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 10,000&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;B&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;Reported on 1098-T for son's return&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;Total Contributions (all before 2024)&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 40,000&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;C&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;Contribs made by PARENTS&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;Excess 2024 Contribs&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;D&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;n/a&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;2023 Distributions&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 15,000&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;E&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;Distribs made to beneficiary&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;Adjusted Basis (C+D-E)&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 25,000&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;F&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;Penna Taxable Amount (A-B-F)&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 15,000&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;G&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2025 21:03:57 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>jomikemu</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-02-27T21:03:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Non-qualified 529 withdrawal calc for Pennsylvania</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/state-taxes/discussion/non-qualified-529-withdrawal-calc-for-pennsylvania/01/3524574#M173690</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;My son is filing independently this year for Fed/PA.&amp;nbsp; We (parents) are the owners of his 529 and made contributions from 2007 thru 2023.&amp;nbsp; He had 20K of fully qualified withdrawals in 2023. He took a withdrawal of 50K in 2024 which 10K of it was for educational expenses and the rest was unqualified.&amp;nbsp; Basis/Earnings is approximately 40/60 (and using rounded numbers for simplicity).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Seems to me that the remainder of 40K should ALL be taxable income to him in PA but the questions in TT are confusing me and ultimately&amp;nbsp; indicating that only 15K is taxable.&amp;nbsp; Is this right??&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Should the contributions question be zero - given that we made them, not him?&amp;nbsp; (Even so, they were all deducted on our PA returns over the years so I would still think the whole 40k would be taxable. )&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Appreciate any guidance you could give me here.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="715"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;Total 2024 Distributions&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 50,000&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;A&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;Reported on son's return (beneficiary)&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;Qualified Amount&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 10,000&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;B&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;Reported on 1098-T for son's return&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;Total Contributions (all before 2024)&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 40,000&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;C&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;Contribs made by PARENTS&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;Excess 2024 Contribs&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;D&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;n/a&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;2023 Distributions&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 15,000&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;E&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;Distribs made to beneficiary&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;Adjusted Basis (C+D-E)&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 25,000&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;F&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="270.675px"&gt;Penna Taxable Amount (A-B-F)&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.9875px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 15,000&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="63.95px"&gt;G&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="303.587px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2025 21:03:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/state-taxes/discussion/non-qualified-529-withdrawal-calc-for-pennsylvania/01/3524574#M173690</guid>
      <dc:creator>jomikemu</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-02-27T21:03:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Non-qualified 529 withdrawal calc for Pennsylvania</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/state-taxes/discussion/re-non-qualified-529-withdrawal-calc-for-pennsylvania/01/3525237#M173720</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You don't provide all the information I need to make a complete calculation, but even with saying the earnings/basis is about 40/60 means the 40,000 would be around 16,000 taxable. (but there is a little more to it)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p970.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"&gt;Only the earnings are taxed, &lt;/A&gt;not the return of the basis.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p970.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"&gt;The calculation can be found &lt;/A&gt;on Pages 45 &amp;amp; 46 of Pub 970 as well &amp;nbsp;on Worksheet 6-3 on page 49.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2025 00:34:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/state-taxes/discussion/re-non-qualified-529-withdrawal-calc-for-pennsylvania/01/3525237#M173720</guid>
      <dc:creator>KrisD15</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-02-28T00:34:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Non-qualified 529 withdrawal calc for Pennsylvania</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/state-taxes/discussion/re-non-qualified-529-withdrawal-calc-for-pennsylvania/01/3526903#M173803</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is specifically for Pennsylvania where, I believe, then entire non-qualified portion of the distribution would be taxed, not just the earnings (since PA allows the contributions to be deducted).&amp;nbsp; Out of the 40K non-qual portion though - basis is approx 16K and earnings are 24K.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; For Fed, it makes sense - the 24K (with some additional allocation differences) is taxed &amp;amp; penalized.&amp;nbsp; But the PA calc doesn't make a lot of sense to me.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2025 18:42:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/state-taxes/discussion/re-non-qualified-529-withdrawal-calc-for-pennsylvania/01/3526903#M173803</guid>
      <dc:creator>jomikemu</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-02-28T18:42:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Non-qualified 529 withdrawal calc for Pennsylvania</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/state-taxes/discussion/re-non-qualified-529-withdrawal-calc-for-pennsylvania/01/3527564#M173838</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes, contributions after 2006 is the dividing line. &amp;nbsp;If all contributions were after 2006, then all claimed deductions become taxable. It is a bit messy with years and claiming all to be figured out.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Take a look at your PA sch A.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://revenue-pa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2517/kw/529%20nonqualified%20distribution/session/L3RpbWUvMTY3ODk4NjQwNi9zaWQvOG5BR2RlMnE%3D" target="_blank"&gt;PA DOR&amp;nbsp;&lt;/A&gt;states:&lt;I&gt; Distributions from an IRC Section&amp;nbsp;529&amp;nbsp;College Career and Savings Program Account&amp;nbsp;not used for qualified educational expenses are taxable and reportable as interest income on PA Schedule A and Line 2 of form PA-40. The cost recovery method must be used to determine the taxable amount for contributions made in tax years 2005 and earlier. The total amount of&amp;nbsp;distributions that were claimed as deductions for tax years 2006 and later is taxable.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:12:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/state-taxes/discussion/re-non-qualified-529-withdrawal-calc-for-pennsylvania/01/3527564#M173838</guid>
      <dc:creator>AmyC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-02-28T22:12:15Z</dc:date>
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