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What happens if I have a 401(k) loan and quit my job but use my own funds to pay off the loan. I still received a 1099-R with code 1 M?

carolraemartin — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 20:32:09 GMT

How do I enter this 1099-R in Turbo tax

When you enter the Form 1099-R, indicate as rolled over w...

dmertz — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 20:32:10 GMT

When you enter the Form 1099-R, indicate as rolled over whatever amount of the box 1 amount on this Form 1099-R that you deposited into another qualified retirement account as a rollover contribution. Enter the Form 1099-R under Wages & Income -> Retirement Plans and Social Security -> IRA, 401(k), Pension Plan Withdrawals (1099-R), then indicate that you moved the money to another retirement account and enter the amount you rolled over. TurboTax will exclude the amount rolled over from the amount reported on Form 1040 line 4b and will included the word "ROLLOVER" next to the line.

But it was not rolled over. I'm confused

carolraemartin — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 20:32:11 GMT

But it was not rolled over. I'm confused

If you paid off the loan then what happened to the balanc...

VolvoGirl — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 20:32:13 GMT

If you paid off the loan then what happened to the balance in the account?

The code 1M distribution is what paid off the loan. Effe...

dmertz — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 20:32:14 GMT

The code 1M distribution is what paid off the loan. Effectively, a distribution was made from your 401(k), reducing the balance in your 401(k), that was turned around to immediately pay off the loan. IF you can come up with the money to put the offset-distribution amount back into a retirement account like an IRA, you avoid tax and penalty on the offset distribution and you report the code 1M Form 1099-R on your tax return as having been rolled over. If you don't come up with the money to complete the rollover, the code 1M distribution is subject to ordinary income tax and 10% early-distribution penalty.

You have until the due date of your 2018 tax return, including extensions, to come up with the money and complete the rollover. When you said that you used your own funds to pay off the loan, I assumed in my answer that you had actually done this rollover (since the code 1M distribution is what actually paid off the loan).

Re: The code 1M distribution is what paid off the loan. Effe...

24jaijay — Sun, 12 Jan 2020 01:39:13 GMT

If I were to rollover the net money(after I took out the loan)to another employer plan, could I then take a loan from the rollover(to the new employer plan), put it into another rollover IRA and then would this qualify as a rollover of the 1st loan proceeds so no tax would be owed on the original loan? In other words have I now rolled over the loan offset from my 1st employer?

Thanks

Re: The code 1M distribution is what paid off the loan. Effe...

dmertz — Sun, 12 Jan 2020 01:50:04 GMT

Yes, 24jaijay, you could do that. You could even complete the rollover of the offset distribution by rolling it over to the new employer's plan instead of rolling it over to an IRA. It might seem a bit strange to take money out of the new plan as a loan just to put it back into the same plan as a rollover contribution, but nothing in the tax code prevents you from doing that and it would accomplish your goal of moving the loan to the new plan.

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24jaijay — Sun, 12 Jan 2020 02:08:16 GMT

Thanks, actually the new plan loan is going to be put into a new rollover IRA and not back into the same plan as I don't yet know if my new employer will allow the loan offset to be rolled into the new plan. A broker suggested I do it this way to satisfy the rollover requirements of a loan offset - my CPA said this will not work because the loan from the rollover into the new employer plan is pre-tax money and cannot be used to satisfy the loan offset rollover, but others, including yourself appear to think it will work.

Is the use of the pretax money(loan)an issue?

Thanks

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dmertz — Sun, 12 Jan 2020 02:47:11 GMT

I have no idea why a CPA would not understand that money is just money. It's quite reasonable to obtain a loan to get the money to complete the rollover of an offset distribution. It just so happens that you are proposing getting the new loan from your new 401(k) plan rather than obtaining a loan from some other source. Once you have the cash in your hand you can do with it what you want, including using it to fund the rollover of the offset distribution.

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24jaijay — Sun, 12 Jan 2020 02:58:16 GMT

Thank you for the help.