topic Re: 1099-NEC in Get your taxes done using TurboTax

1099-NEC

roglinde — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 00:37:31 GMT

I entered 1099_NEC income where suggested but when I indicate there may be expenses, tax due triples?

Re: 1099-NEC

SamS1 — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 00:57:33 GMT

TurboTax is calculating self-employment tax and income tax on the total amount of the 1099-NEC entered. The amount from your 1099-NEC is being taxed at your marginal income tax rate plus 15.3% for self employment taxes. As you enter expenses to offset that income, the amount of tax will go down. You will need to upgrade to Self-employed version of TurboTax to enter expenses to offset the 1099-NEC self-employment income. If the 1099-NEC is not self employment income, then it should be entered as Miscellaneous income.

Beginning with the 2020 tax year, the IRS will require business taxpayers to report nonemployee compensation on the new Form 1099-NEC instead of on Form 1099-MISC. Businesses will need to use this form if they made payments totaling $600 or more to a nonemployee, such as an independent contractor. This was done to help clarify the separate filing deadlines on Form 1099-MISC and the new 1099-NEC form will be used starting with the 2020 tax year.

Re: 1099-NEC

Mimi-Papa — Tue, 16 Mar 2021 16:41:13 GMT

I am a taxpayer and not an expert, but I had the exact same situation as you, so here's my take. I found that if I enter only the amount from box 1 on my 1099-NEC and do not enter any expenses, then TT does not create either a Schedule-C nor a Schedule-SE, and therefore does not calculate any self employment tax on the amount. In this case, TT puts the amount from my 1099-NEC under "other income". But as soon as I tell it I have expenses against it, TT suddenly creates a Sch-C and Sch-SE, which adds 15.3% self employment tax to my tax liability. In my case I would be far better off, tax wise, reporting this income as "other income", and NOT entering expenses. However, although TT lets me do this, I don't believe that would be correct, since from all the articles I've recently read on the matter, I believe this actually should be reported (unfortunately) as self employment income. If I'm wrong about that, someone please let me know. Thanks!

Re: 1099-NEC

DMarkM1 — Tue, 16 Mar 2021 18:27:06 GMT

You are correct. Income reported on a 1099-NEC is inherently self-employment income and subject to Self-employment taxes.

According to the IRS payments for services performed are NEC. Below is extracted from the 1099-NEC instructions.

What is NEC?

If the following four conditions are met, you must generally report a payment as NEC.

You made the payment to someone who is not your employee.
You made the payment for services in the course of your trade or business (including government agencies and nonprofit organizations).
You made the payment to an individual, partnership, estate, or, in some cases, a corporation.
You made payments to the payee of at least $600 during the year.

Re: 1099-NEC

corderodyer — Thu, 18 Mar 2021 15:45:58 GMT

I am having the same issue. I believe that Turbotax is making an error by not reporting self-employment tax on my 1099-NEC.

Re: 1099-NEC

Mimi-Papa — Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:29:06 GMT

Yes, it seems very odd. From everything I've seen (and I do not dispute this), if you have an amount in box 1 of a 1099-NEC, that needs to be reported as Self Employment income. Yet when entering it in exactly that way, TT Deluxe by default puts it into "Other Income". This is a bit troubling. I have been using TT Deluxe for many years now, and I have come to expect TT to put my income amounts into the correct categories, especially when it comes to extremely common things like simple 1099 income. But in this case, after having entered it in all correctly (there's not much to get wrong there), TT puts it in the wrong place. I'd love to hear if Intuit has an explanation for this.

Re: 1099-NEC

corderodyer — Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:25:46 GMT

i am new to this board. How/when will Intuit respond? i am pretty sure their software has an error

Re: 1099-NEC

vkTax — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 04:02:24 GMT

Guided by Turbotax my kids have been filing wrong taxes for the past 2 years. They have income from miscellaneous summer jobs and helping out family members. They get some of this income through 1099 NEC. But since they don't have any expenses related to these, TurboTax was not generating any Schedule C and they have not been paying self employment taxes.

I would think this would be a pretty common scenario for many kids. How does TurboTax miss such a case.