topic Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement in Get your taxes done using TurboTax https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1651962#M585705 <P>I have several rental properties that I have to aggregate under the QBI Safe Harbor allowance, since this is the only way for me to satisfy the record-keeping requirements as I don't spend enough time on each property by itself. However, when I do my federal review, I get the message that I have to file a paper return because I "have QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement" that is not supported by TurboTax for e-filing.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I seem to recall some other threads (which I can no longer find) where a TT expert said there might be an update which would allow attachment of a signed .pdf and therefore the ability to e-file? I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is such a possibility, or if I should just resign myself to the immense hassle of printing 100 pages and mailing them, as the deadline is fast approaching.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Thanks for any feedback or suggestions!</P> Tue, 30 Jun 2020 19:27:57 GMT honem 2020-06-30T19:27:57Z Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1651962#M585705 <P>I have several rental properties that I have to aggregate under the QBI Safe Harbor allowance, since this is the only way for me to satisfy the record-keeping requirements as I don't spend enough time on each property by itself. However, when I do my federal review, I get the message that I have to file a paper return because I "have QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement" that is not supported by TurboTax for e-filing.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I seem to recall some other threads (which I can no longer find) where a TT expert said there might be an update which would allow attachment of a signed .pdf and therefore the ability to e-file? I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is such a possibility, or if I should just resign myself to the immense hassle of printing 100 pages and mailing them, as the deadline is fast approaching.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Thanks for any feedback or suggestions!</P> Tue, 30 Jun 2020 19:27:57 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1651962#M585705 honem 2020-06-30T19:27:57Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1655604#M586982 <P><SPAN style="font-size:14px"><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">No, there is no information available to me that indicates or suggests that e-filing the Rental Real Estate Enterprise "safe harbor" statement will be supported by 7/15/2020.&nbsp; Returns with this attachment are print and mail only.</SPAN></SPAN></P> Fri, 03 Jul 2020 18:09:45 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1655604#M586982 DavidS127 2020-07-03T18:09:45Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1657431#M587652 <P>I do not understand why Turbotax and IRS can not work together to fix this bug to allow for digital sign the form, the whole point of using Turbotax is that I can do efile and I do not need to print and mail the forms. If I can not do it what is the point of buying Turbotax!&nbsp; I want my money back.&nbsp;</P> Sun, 05 Jul 2020 05:13:29 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1657431#M587652 David Zhu 2020-07-05T05:13:29Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1657463#M587664 <P>I agree with you, David. Time to find a different product or means of filing our returns next year. Although we have been loyal TurboTax customers, this year we have had one problem after another, requiring more time to fix the problems than it would have taken to fill out the returns in the first place! And now, not even being able to file electronically? Absolutely ridiculous.</P> Sun, 05 Jul 2020 07:06:17 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1657463#M587664 honem 2020-07-05T07:06:17Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1687896#M600463 <P>I have the same situation.&nbsp; I've using efile with TT for years.&nbsp; Do we really need to print pages of tax return and mail?&nbsp; Did TT update their attachment? Or can TT allow us to efile and we can add statement by mail?</P> Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:04:07 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1687896#M600463 cathyjohn 2020-07-15T18:04:07Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1688231#M600612 <P><SPAN style="font-size:14px"><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">The IRS requirement to attach a signed and dated rental activity safe harbor election statement is new for the 2019 tax season; the IRS did not issue that safe harbor procedure until the fall of 2019.</SPAN></SPAN></P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P><SPAN style="font-size:14px"><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">At this time, that signed and date rental activity safe harbor election cannot be attached to a TurboTax return as a PDF; the tax return must be printed and mailed.</SPAN></SPAN></P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P><SPAN style="font-size:14px"><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><LI-USER uid="68797" login="cathyjohn"></LI-USER></SPAN></SPAN></P> Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:53:49 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1688231#M600612 DavidS127 2020-07-15T18:53:49Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1725818#M612779 <P>Yes, this is unfortunate that TT did this for me also, so I need to mail a paper return. You can try deleting that SH stmt, although I did that, and it took away my Q business deduction for that property. I have other businesses also, although that is the only one that TT made me fill out a SH stmt for! TT should upload that form and have you sign electronically for it, then allow the e filing</P> Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:19:11 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1725818#M612779 ml247 2020-09-28T20:19:11Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2084350#M750027 <P>An idea would be to not take the QBI deduction for rental properties and then e-file your return. After it's been accepted you could wait a month or so and then file an amended return (which should only be a few pages) and take the QBI deduction. Clearly you lose some time value of money and it flags the QBI issue, but it may be better than printing off tons of forms and mailing the original return.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Just a thought - any comments on this idea?</P> Mon, 15 Mar 2021 16:41:38 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2084350#M750027 rayalink 2021-03-15T16:41:38Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2095993#M754333 <P>Taking the QBI Safe Harbor does still require you to print and mail the return.&nbsp; TurboTax does not have e-file available for that option.</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P><SPAN style="font-size:11pt"><SPAN style="color:#0563c1"><U><SPAN style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><A href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/articles/4784293-what-can-i-expense-or-depreciate-with-the-business-safe-harbor-election" target="_blank">What can I expense or depreciate with the business safe harbor election?</A></SPAN></U></SPAN></SPAN></P> Wed, 17 Mar 2021 02:07:20 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2095993#M754333 MaryM428 2021-03-17T02:07:20Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2107691#M758609 <P>I am a 20 year user of both Quickbooks and TurboTax and am disappointed in the inability to e-file my return due to the QBI Deduction and the Safe Harbor elections.&nbsp; Is Intuit addressing this issue?&nbsp; In today's environment with Covid, the IRS is behind by millions and millions of returns.&nbsp; Last year, I had to get a Tax Advocate involved twice to speed up the processing of two years worth of tax returns with the IRS due to their backlog.&nbsp; I was really hoping that this year I would be able to e-file to avoid their paper-processing delays.&nbsp; Is this just the way it's going to be, or will Intuit include the ability to attach a PDF file to our returns, in order to provide the IRS with the signed form they are requesting.&nbsp; I fully qualify for the QBI and Safe Harbor elections, so that is not an issue.&nbsp; My QBI deduction is almost $8000.00, so choosing to ignore the deduction is out of the question.&nbsp; I would like someone to address this with your programming staff at Intuit and at least let those of us faced with this issue be given an answer.&nbsp; My decision to use TurboTax in the future DOES ride on this decision.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P> Fri, 19 Mar 2021 02:13:09 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2107691#M758609 Stupidasur3 2021-03-19T02:13:09Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2148181#M772944 <P>TT still has not fixed this issue for year 2020 return. It requires me to print out and mail the documents.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P> Mon, 29 Mar 2021 17:30:18 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2148181#M772944 jfc650 2021-03-29T17:30:18Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2167319#M778793 <P>I sent the following message to the&nbsp;&nbsp;IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service <A href="https://www.improveirs.org/submit-a-suggestion/" target="_blank">https://www.improveirs.org/submit-a-suggestion/ </A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>IRS is not allowing taxpayers who use the QBI business income deduction to efile the 2020 tax return due to an apparent requirement to physically sign a Section 199A Rental Real Estate Safe Harbor Statement under penalty of perjury.&nbsp; This should not be necessary as the signature on the return applies to all statements included in the return.&nbsp; The inability to efile using a tax service, such as Turbo Tax which is preventing efiling because of the issue, is creating an undue burden on taxpayers as they will now have to print and mail the tax return which some instances include more than 100 pages.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I'll share the reply if I get one.&nbsp; I'm also thinking about sending the message to the Secretary of the Treasury</P> Sat, 03 Apr 2021 20:26:11 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2167319#M778793 DAVIDHK 2021-04-03T20:26:11Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2168992#M779885 <P><LI-USER uid="4011280" login="DAVIDHK"></LI-USER>, you can wait to get a reply from the IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service, but at this point, your only option would be to&nbsp;<A href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/printing/help/how-do-i-print-and-mail-my-return-in-turbotax-online/00/26258" target="_blank">print and mail</A>&nbsp;your return.</P> Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:37:48 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2168992#M779885 TiffanyL 2021-04-04T16:37:48Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2205470#M793751 <P>The IRS does not disallow efiling with the QBI RREE statement.&nbsp; It is Turbotax that is incompetent and unable/unwilling to work on enabling efile with QBI RREE</P> Thu, 15 Apr 2021 03:07:10 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2205470#M793751 rchen404 2021-04-15T03:07:10Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2217351#M797589 <P>I totally agree with you.&nbsp; I am hitting the same issue.&nbsp; Have been using TT for years, and now this becomes a point breaker for me.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>I am starting to research for different tax software.</P> Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:19:22 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2217351#M797589 Bao_CA 2021-04-19T14:19:22Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2217354#M797590 <P>I totally agree with you.&nbsp; I am hitting the same issue.&nbsp; Have been using TT for years, and now this becomes a point breaker for me.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>I am starting to research for a different tax software.</P> Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:21:09 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2217354#M797590 Bao_CA 2021-04-19T14:21:09Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256197#M809282 <P>Same here, very frustrating.&nbsp; TurboTax please fix this or for Tax 2021 I will be looking elsewhere.&nbsp; Printing 100+ pages for filing sucks and should NOT be required in 2021.</P> Fri, 07 May 2021 15:51:21 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256197#M809282 Boris P 2021-05-07T15:51:21Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256417#M809342 <P>I found a work around that is acceptable for me, but not sure if it is OK for the others.&nbsp; Instead of selecting Safe Harbor/QBI, I select just only QBI.&nbsp; This allows me to e-file.&nbsp; Somehow, by selecting Safe Harbor/QBI, the QBI is unable to e-file. Turbo Tax needs to address this bug or provide a reasonable explanations.&nbsp; Now, I am OK with selecting only QBI because I did not see much differences in savings between Safe Harbor/QBI comparing to just QBI.&nbsp; So, you may want to verify at your end to see if it is acceptable.</P> Fri, 07 May 2021 17:12:06 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256417#M809342 Bao_CA 2021-05-07T17:12:06Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256426#M809344 <P>My workaround is to select QBI only.&nbsp; Do not select Safe Habor/QBI.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>Once I de-select Safe Habor, then selecting QBI, I was able to efile.&nbsp; Make sure to check for saving differences between Safe Habor and QBI only.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Good luck.</P> Fri, 07 May 2021 17:17:08 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256426#M809344 Bao_CA 2021-05-07T17:17:08Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256528#M809377 <P>I'm very interested in this potential solution. Can you give more specifics about where you were able to de-select Safe Harbor, then select QBI? I can't figure out how to do this.</P> Fri, 07 May 2021 18:00:15 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256528#M809377 honem 2021-05-07T18:00:15Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256621#M809414 <P>Will send pictures of the steps later tonight.</P> Fri, 07 May 2021 18:35:16 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256621#M809414 Bao_CA 2021-05-07T18:35:16Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2258991#M810237 <P>After you have entered all your income &amp; expenses for Real Estate, then it should take you to a page saying "Do you want to use a safe harbor to qualify this property for a deduction?" Under this page, you should see three options to select.&nbsp; One of them is safe harbor.&nbsp; Do not select that.&nbsp; For me, I select None of these apply.&nbsp; Then you will hit continue.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>On the next page, you should see "Is this Qualified Business Income?", along with two options to choose.&nbsp; I chose Yes, this income is QBI. Then you hit continue.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The following page should say "Let's cover some uncommon situations", along with three options to choose.&nbsp; I skipped this because it is not applicable to me.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The next page should be "Does this business receive income from specified services?" You would choose Yes, or No on this page.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The next page should be "Does this business receive income from specified services business with common ownership?" Answer either Yes or No.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The last page should be a summary of your QBI savings.&nbsp; You should be able to E-file after this.</P> Sat, 08 May 2021 23:20:47 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2258991#M810237 Bao_CA 2021-05-08T23:20:47Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2260131#M810628 <P>Thank you, that seemed to work for me.&nbsp; Numbers jumped all over the place while re-classifying properties but in the end after all were done were exactly the same.&nbsp; &nbsp;This saved me a ton of hassle</P> Sun, 09 May 2021 18:54:49 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2260131#M810628 Boris P 2021-05-09T18:54:49Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2265784#M812641 <P>Thank you so much for posting your work-around. My concern is that if managing your rental properties does not truly qualify for QBI outside of the safe harbor allowance, because it's not technically a trade or business, then if you were to get audited, you might not be able to take the deduction. IRS definition:&nbsp;<SPAN>The term&nbsp;</SPAN><EM>trade or business</EM><SPAN>&nbsp;generally includes any activity carried on for the production of income from selling goods or performing services.&nbsp; From another source -&nbsp;</SPAN>The courts and the IRS look at the facts and circumstances determine whether an activity is a trade or business. Specifically, they look at a number of factors including:</P><DIV class="kliorderedlist"><UL><LI><P>the manner in which the taxpayer carries on the activity;</P></LI><LI><P>the expertise of the taxpayer or his or her advisors;</P></LI><LI><P>the time and effort expended by the taxpayer in carrying on the activity;</P></LI><LI><P>the expectation that assets used in the activity may appreciate in value;</P></LI><LI><P>the success of the taxpayer in carrying on other similar or dissimilar activities;</P></LI><LI><P>the taxpayer's history of income or losses with respect to the activity;</P></LI><LI><P>the amount of occasional profits, if any, that are earned; the financial status of the taxpayer; and</P></LI><LI><P>elements of personal pleasure or recreation</P></LI></UL></DIV> Tue, 11 May 2021 18:59:32 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2265784#M812641 honem 2021-05-11T18:59:32Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2270946#M814570 <P>Thank you, Bao!</P> Thu, 13 May 2021 05:00:40 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2270946#M814570 claire_p 2021-05-13T05:00:40Z Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2271809#M814890 <P>hey turbo tax - printing returns is complete nonsense. wtf?</P> Thu, 13 May 2021 16:09:27 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2271809#M814890 christufts 2021-05-13T16:09:27Z
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<P>I have several rental properties that I have to aggregate under the QBI Safe Harbor allowance, since this is the only way for me to satisfy the record-keeping requirements as I don't spend enough time on each property by itself. However, when I do my federal review, I get the message that I have to file a paper return because I "have QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement" that is not supported by TurboTax for e-filing.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I seem to recall some other threads (which I can no longer find) where a TT expert said there might be an update which would allow attachment of a signed .pdf and therefore the ability to e-file? I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is such a possibility, or if I should just resign myself to the immense hassle of printing 100 pages and mailing them, as the deadline is fast approaching.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Thanks for any feedback or suggestions!</P>
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<P>I have several rental properties that I have to aggregate under the QBI Safe Harbor allowance, since this is the only way for me to satisfy the record-keeping requirements as I don't spend enough time on each property by itself. However, when I do my federal review, I get the message that I have to file a paper return because I "have QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement" that is not supported by TurboTax for e-filing.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I seem to recall some other threads (which I can no longer find) where a TT expert said there might be an update which would allow attachment of a signed .pdf and therefore the ability to e-file? I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is such a possibility, or if I should just resign myself to the immense hassle of printing 100 pages and mailing them, as the deadline is fast approaching.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Thanks for any feedback or suggestions!</P>
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<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2020 19:27:57 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>honem</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2020-06-30T19:27:57Z</dc:date>
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Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1655604#M586982
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<P><SPAN style="font-size:14px"><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">No, there is no information available to me that indicates or suggests that e-filing the Rental Real Estate Enterprise "safe harbor" statement will be supported by 7/15/2020.&nbsp; Returns with this attachment are print and mail only.</SPAN></SPAN></P>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2020 18:09:45 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>DavidS127</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2020-07-03T18:09:45Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1657431#M587652
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<P>I do not understand why Turbotax and IRS can not work together to fix this bug to allow for digital sign the form, the whole point of using Turbotax is that I can do efile and I do not need to print and mail the forms. If I can not do it what is the point of buying Turbotax!&nbsp; I want my money back.&nbsp;</P>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2020 05:13:29 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>David Zhu</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2020-07-05T05:13:29Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1657463#M587664
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<P>I agree with you, David. Time to find a different product or means of filing our returns next year. Although we have been loyal TurboTax customers, this year we have had one problem after another, requiring more time to fix the problems than it would have taken to fill out the returns in the first place! And now, not even being able to file electronically? Absolutely ridiculous.</P>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2020 07:06:17 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>honem</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2020-07-05T07:06:17Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1687896#M600463
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<P>I have the same situation.&nbsp; I've using efile with TT for years.&nbsp; Do we really need to print pages of tax return and mail?&nbsp; Did TT update their attachment? Or can TT allow us to efile and we can add statement by mail?</P>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:04:07 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>cathyjohn</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2020-07-15T18:04:07Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1688231#M600612
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<P><SPAN style="font-size:14px"><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">The IRS requirement to attach a signed and dated rental activity safe harbor election statement is new for the 2019 tax season; the IRS did not issue that safe harbor procedure until the fall of 2019.</SPAN></SPAN></P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P><SPAN style="font-size:14px"><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">At this time, that signed and date rental activity safe harbor election cannot be attached to a TurboTax return as a PDF; the tax return must be printed and mailed.</SPAN></SPAN></P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P><SPAN style="font-size:14px"><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><LI-USER uid="68797" login="cathyjohn"></LI-USER></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:53:49 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>DavidS127</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2020-07-15T18:53:49Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/1725818#M612779
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<P>Yes, this is unfortunate that TT did this for me also, so I need to mail a paper return. You can try deleting that SH stmt, although I did that, and it took away my Q business deduction for that property. I have other businesses also, although that is the only one that TT made me fill out a SH stmt for! TT should upload that form and have you sign electronically for it, then allow the e filing</P>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:19:11 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>ml247</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2020-09-28T20:19:11Z</dc:date>
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Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2084350#M750027
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<P>An idea would be to not take the QBI deduction for rental properties and then e-file your return. After it's been accepted you could wait a month or so and then file an amended return (which should only be a few pages) and take the QBI deduction. Clearly you lose some time value of money and it flags the QBI issue, but it may be better than printing off tons of forms and mailing the original return.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Just a thought - any comments on this idea?</P>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 16:41:38 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>rayalink</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-03-15T16:41:38Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2095993#M754333
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<P>Taking the QBI Safe Harbor does still require you to print and mail the return.&nbsp; TurboTax does not have e-file available for that option.</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P><SPAN style="font-size:11pt"><SPAN style="color:#0563c1"><U><SPAN style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><A href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/articles/4784293-what-can-i-expense-or-depreciate-with-the-business-safe-harbor-election" target="_blank">What can I expense or depreciate with the business safe harbor election?</A></SPAN></U></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2021 02:07:20 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>MaryM428</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-03-17T02:07:20Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2107691#M758609
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<P>I am a 20 year user of both Quickbooks and TurboTax and am disappointed in the inability to e-file my return due to the QBI Deduction and the Safe Harbor elections.&nbsp; Is Intuit addressing this issue?&nbsp; In today's environment with Covid, the IRS is behind by millions and millions of returns.&nbsp; Last year, I had to get a Tax Advocate involved twice to speed up the processing of two years worth of tax returns with the IRS due to their backlog.&nbsp; I was really hoping that this year I would be able to e-file to avoid their paper-processing delays.&nbsp; Is this just the way it's going to be, or will Intuit include the ability to attach a PDF file to our returns, in order to provide the IRS with the signed form they are requesting.&nbsp; I fully qualify for the QBI and Safe Harbor elections, so that is not an issue.&nbsp; My QBI deduction is almost $8000.00, so choosing to ignore the deduction is out of the question.&nbsp; I would like someone to address this with your programming staff at Intuit and at least let those of us faced with this issue be given an answer.&nbsp; My decision to use TurboTax in the future DOES ride on this decision.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>
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<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2021 02:13:09 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>Stupidasur3</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-03-19T02:13:09Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2148181#M772944
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<P>TT still has not fixed this issue for year 2020 return. It requires me to print out and mail the documents.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2021 17:30:18 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>jfc650</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-03-29T17:30:18Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2167319#M778793
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<P>I sent the following message to the&nbsp;&nbsp;IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service <A href="https://www.improveirs.org/submit-a-suggestion/" target="_blank">https://www.improveirs.org/submit-a-suggestion/ </A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>IRS is not allowing taxpayers who use the QBI business income deduction to efile the 2020 tax return due to an apparent requirement to physically sign a Section 199A Rental Real Estate Safe Harbor Statement under penalty of perjury.&nbsp; This should not be necessary as the signature on the return applies to all statements included in the return.&nbsp; The inability to efile using a tax service, such as Turbo Tax which is preventing efiling because of the issue, is creating an undue burden on taxpayers as they will now have to print and mail the tax return which some instances include more than 100 pages.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I'll share the reply if I get one.&nbsp; I'm also thinking about sending the message to the Secretary of the Treasury</P>
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<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2021 20:26:11 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>DAVIDHK</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-04-03T20:26:11Z</dc:date>
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Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2168992#M779885
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<P><LI-USER uid="4011280" login="DAVIDHK"></LI-USER>, you can wait to get a reply from the IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service, but at this point, your only option would be to&nbsp;<A href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/printing/help/how-do-i-print-and-mail-my-return-in-turbotax-online/00/26258" target="_blank">print and mail</A>&nbsp;your return.</P>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:37:48 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>TiffanyL</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-04-04T16:37:48Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2205470#M793751
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<P>The IRS does not disallow efiling with the QBI RREE statement.&nbsp; It is Turbotax that is incompetent and unable/unwilling to work on enabling efile with QBI RREE</P>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 03:07:10 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>rchen404</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-04-15T03:07:10Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2217351#M797589
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<P>I totally agree with you.&nbsp; I am hitting the same issue.&nbsp; Have been using TT for years, and now this becomes a point breaker for me.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>I am starting to research for different tax software.</P>
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<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:19:22 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>Bao_CA</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-04-19T14:19:22Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2217354#M797590
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<P>I totally agree with you.&nbsp; I am hitting the same issue.&nbsp; Have been using TT for years, and now this becomes a point breaker for me.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>I am starting to research for a different tax software.</P>
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<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:21:09 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>Bao_CA</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-04-19T14:21:09Z</dc:date>
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Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256197#M809282
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<P>Same here, very frustrating.&nbsp; TurboTax please fix this or for Tax 2021 I will be looking elsewhere.&nbsp; Printing 100+ pages for filing sucks and should NOT be required in 2021.</P>
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<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2021 15:51:21 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>Boris P</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-05-07T15:51:21Z</dc:date>
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Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256417#M809342
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<P>I found a work around that is acceptable for me, but not sure if it is OK for the others.&nbsp; Instead of selecting Safe Harbor/QBI, I select just only QBI.&nbsp; This allows me to e-file.&nbsp; Somehow, by selecting Safe Harbor/QBI, the QBI is unable to e-file. Turbo Tax needs to address this bug or provide a reasonable explanations.&nbsp; Now, I am OK with selecting only QBI because I did not see much differences in savings between Safe Harbor/QBI comparing to just QBI.&nbsp; So, you may want to verify at your end to see if it is acceptable.</P>
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<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2021 17:12:06 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>Bao_CA</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-05-07T17:12:06Z</dc:date>
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Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256426#M809344
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<P>My workaround is to select QBI only.&nbsp; Do not select Safe Habor/QBI.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>Once I de-select Safe Habor, then selecting QBI, I was able to efile.&nbsp; Make sure to check for saving differences between Safe Habor and QBI only.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Good luck.</P>
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<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2021 17:17:08 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>Bao_CA</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-05-07T17:17:08Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256528#M809377
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<P>I'm very interested in this potential solution. Can you give more specifics about where you were able to de-select Safe Harbor, then select QBI? I can't figure out how to do this.</P>
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<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2021 18:00:15 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>honem</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-05-07T18:00:15Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2256621#M809414
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<P>Will send pictures of the steps later tonight.</P>
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<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2021 18:35:16 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>Bao_CA</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-05-07T18:35:16Z</dc:date>
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Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2258991#M810237
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<P>After you have entered all your income &amp; expenses for Real Estate, then it should take you to a page saying "Do you want to use a safe harbor to qualify this property for a deduction?" Under this page, you should see three options to select.&nbsp; One of them is safe harbor.&nbsp; Do not select that.&nbsp; For me, I select None of these apply.&nbsp; Then you will hit continue.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>On the next page, you should see "Is this Qualified Business Income?", along with two options to choose.&nbsp; I chose Yes, this income is QBI. Then you hit continue.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The following page should say "Let's cover some uncommon situations", along with three options to choose.&nbsp; I skipped this because it is not applicable to me.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The next page should be "Does this business receive income from specified services?" You would choose Yes, or No on this page.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The next page should be "Does this business receive income from specified services business with common ownership?" Answer either Yes or No.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The last page should be a summary of your QBI savings.&nbsp; You should be able to E-file after this.</P>
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<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2021 23:20:47 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>Bao_CA</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-05-08T23:20:47Z</dc:date>
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2260131#M810628
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<P>Thank you, that seemed to work for me.&nbsp; Numbers jumped all over the place while re-classifying properties but in the end after all were done were exactly the same.&nbsp; &nbsp;This saved me a ton of hassle</P>
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<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2021 18:54:49 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>Boris P</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-05-09T18:54:49Z</dc:date>
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Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement
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<P>Thank you so much for posting your work-around. My concern is that if managing your rental properties does not truly qualify for QBI outside of the safe harbor allowance, because it's not technically a trade or business, then if you were to get audited, you might not be able to take the deduction. IRS definition:&nbsp;<SPAN>The term&nbsp;</SPAN><EM>trade or business</EM><SPAN>&nbsp;generally includes any activity carried on for the production of income from selling goods or performing services.&nbsp; From another source -&nbsp;</SPAN>The courts and the IRS look at the facts and circumstances determine whether an activity is a trade or business. Specifically, they look at a number of factors including:</P><DIV class="kliorderedlist"><UL><LI><P>the manner in which the taxpayer carries on the activity;</P></LI><LI><P>the expertise of the taxpayer or his or her advisors;</P></LI><LI><P>the time and effort expended by the taxpayer in carrying on the activity;</P></LI><LI><P>the expectation that assets used in the activity may appreciate in value;</P></LI><LI><P>the success of the taxpayer in carrying on other similar or dissimilar activities;</P></LI><LI><P>the taxpayer's history of income or losses with respect to the activity;</P></LI><LI><P>the amount of occasional profits, if any, that are earned; the financial status of the taxpayer; and</P></LI><LI><P>elements of personal pleasure or recreation</P></LI></UL></DIV>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2021 18:59:32 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>honem</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-05-11T18:59:32Z</dc:date>
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Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2270946#M814570
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<description><P>Thank you, Bao!</P></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2021 05:00:40 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>claire_p</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-05-13T05:00:40Z</dc:date>
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Re: Can't efile because of QBI Rental Real Estate Enterprise Statement
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https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-can-t-efile-because-of-qbi-rental-real-estate-enterprise-statement/01/2271809#M814890
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<P>hey turbo tax - printing returns is complete nonsense. wtf?</P>
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2021 16:09:27 GMT</pubDate>
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<dc:creator>christufts</dc:creator>
<dc:date>2021-05-13T16:09:27Z</dc:date>
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