https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/form-4852-calculating-line-7-withholding-without-pay-stub-calculating-line-8-form-1099-r-as-well/01/1407560#M511417 <P>I never received my W-2 from my employer. His reason for not sending it is that his payroll company (Heartland Payroll) never gave him the W-2s because of his personal debt to them.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I waited the ascribed amount of time and never received it. I then called the IRS and received the FORM 4852 but I have no pay stubs and I am locked out of my account on Heartland Payroll.</P><P>Fast forward a few weeks: I managed to work out the amount of gross income by taking the hours worked on my “timekeeping receipts” and multiplying them by my hourly wage. However I have no idea how to calculate my withholding (recently tried the IRS withholding calculator but it is asking for suspected future wages for 2020?).</P><P>I do not have any pensions, IRAs etc so the total amount for line 8 would be $0 correct?</P><P>What is my next step? Thanks for the help!</P><P>&nbsp;</P> Sat, 04 Apr 2020 23:59:51 GMT form4852help 2020-04-04T23:59:51Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/form-4852-calculating-line-7-withholding-without-pay-stub-calculating-line-8-form-1099-r-as-well/01/1407560#M511417 <P>I never received my W-2 from my employer. His reason for not sending it is that his payroll company (Heartland Payroll) never gave him the W-2s because of his personal debt to them.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I waited the ascribed amount of time and never received it. I then called the IRS and received the FORM 4852 but I have no pay stubs and I am locked out of my account on Heartland Payroll.</P><P>Fast forward a few weeks: I managed to work out the amount of gross income by taking the hours worked on my “timekeeping receipts” and multiplying them by my hourly wage. However I have no idea how to calculate my withholding (recently tried the IRS withholding calculator but it is asking for suspected future wages for 2020?).</P><P>I do not have any pensions, IRAs etc so the total amount for line 8 would be $0 correct?</P><P>What is my next step? Thanks for the help!</P><P>&nbsp;</P> Sat, 04 Apr 2020 23:59:51 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/form-4852-calculating-line-7-withholding-without-pay-stub-calculating-line-8-form-1099-r-as-well/01/1407560#M511417 form4852help 2020-04-04T23:59:51Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-form-4852-calculating-line-7-withholding-without-pay-stub-calculating-line-8-form-1099-r-as-well/01/1407633#M511441 <P>Try the IRS wage and income transcript to see if the withholding was given to the IRS.</P> <P><A href="https://www.irs.gov/individuals/get-transcript" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.irs.gov/individuals/get-transcript</A></P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P>If either the employer of payroll company kept the withheld tax then they probably broke several laws.&nbsp; You can also talk to the IRS.</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P>Your state labor department might also be able to help.&nbsp;</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P>I am not an attorney, but I do not think it is legal for a payroll company to hold employees W-2's hostage because they were not paid by the employer.&nbsp; You&nbsp; might want to talk with the local district attorney about possible criminal charges.</P> Sun, 05 Apr 2020 00:49:24 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-form-4852-calculating-line-7-withholding-without-pay-stub-calculating-line-8-form-1099-r-as-well/01/1407633#M511441 macuser_22 2020-04-05T00:49:24Z