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Head of Household confusion

LLJ — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 00:39:50 GMT

I am confused about the head of household classification. I got a letter from the IRS verifying the status. I thought I met the requirements but now I am unsure. I claimed a 25 y.o. child(would now be a qualifying relative - I think) that was a full- time student, lived with me all year, I paid all housing costs, and they made just over $1000 for income for the year. Does this qualify for me to use head of household?

Re: Head of Household confusion

Bsch4477 — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 00:58:13 GMT

Yes, if you paid more than half of his/her support and he/she is related to you.

Re: Head of Household confusion

LLJ — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 01:46:09 GMT

so she does not need to be disabled or something like that.

Re: Head of Household confusion

macuser_22 — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 02:16:24 GMT

Disability has nothing to do with HOH.

Head of Household is for UNMARRIED taxpayers with a related dependent or married and have not lived with their spouse at anytime during the last 6 months of the tax year AND has a child, stepchild or foster child that can be a dependent.
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You may be able to file as head of household if you meet all the following requirements.

1. You are unmarried or “considered unmarried” on the last day of the year.
(You could be considered unmarried if your spouse did not live in your home at any time during the last 6 months of the tax year).
If you were considered married for part of the year and lived in a community property state, special rules may apply in determining your income and expenses. See Publication 555 for more information.

2. You paid more than half the cost of keeping up a home for the year.

3. A “qualifying person” lived with you in the home for more than half the year (except for temporary absences such as school) - a parent does not have to live with you to be a qualifying person.

4. If the qualifying person is your qualifying relative, their gross income must have been less than $4,150 (do not include non taxable Social Security) and you provided more than 1/2 of their support

5. You must be able to claim the dependent for the qualifying person except in the case of divorced or separated parents (that lived apart) and the noncustodial parent is claiming the dependent.

A Qualifying person is either:
A qualifying child or a qualifying closely related relative and meets certain other requirements, however if you are considered unmarried it can only be your child, stepchild, or foster child.

See IRS Publication 501 for more information about who is a qualifying person and a worksheet to determine the cost of keeping up a home.

See IRS Pub 501 for more information
https://www.irs.gov/publications/p501#en_US_2018_publink1000220775

Re: Head of Household confusion

LLJ — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 03:43:49 GMT

macuser-22

I had read all the items you had sent me and that is why I had marked myself as head of house but the IRS is questioning if I should have had her as a dependent for the HOH claim. By your first written response it looks like you say that the person living with me would also need to have a child? I did not see that written in any of the info I found when trying to be sure I did my tax correct last year. By the definitions I saw she is a qualifying relative - did not have her own family, fulltime student that worked a little side job for minimal pay for the year. I paid all the bills for her to live in the house with me. LLJ

Re: Head of Household confusion

macuser_22 — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 04:16:31 GMT

@LLJ wrote:

macuser-22

By your first written response it looks like you say that the person living with me would also need to have a child?

You mis-read what I posted. The first sentence refers to the person claiming HOH (you), not the dependent, and only if you are married (if you are single then it does not apply).

Also, a 25 year old child can only be a Qualifying Relative dependent so being a student makes no difference for a child over age 23.

Re: Head of Household confusion

LLJ — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 04:44:19 GMT

I guess I do not understand the difference between her being a qualify relative dependent or a fulltime student dependent at age 23? Both of these would qualify me to be HOH if I am single, pay all the bills for the house and she lived with me the entire year, correct??

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VolvoGirl — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 04:57:33 GMT

Here's an article that should help. Who is a qualifying person for Head of Household

https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/family/help/what-is-a-qualifying-person-for-head-of-household/00/26624

and Here's a FAQ for Head of Household

https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/family/help/do-i-qualify-for-head-of-household/00/25539

Re: Head of Household confusion

macuser_22 — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 05:17:08 GMT

@LLJ wrote:

I guess I do not understand the difference between her being a qualify relative dependent or a fulltime student dependent at age 23? Both of these would qualify me to be HOH if I am single, pay all the bills for the house and she lived with me the entire year, correct??

Correct, both will qualify for HOH. It is the requirements that are different. From what you first posted it would appear that she qualities by the rules that I posted -

- she lived with you more than half the year.

- you paid more the half the total household costs for the year.

- her income was less than $4,150.

No problem - you qualify for HOH.

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LLJ — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 06:10:33 GMT

Thanks!!!

Re: Head of Household confusion

mb123 — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:16:32 GMT

I have filed head of household for many years.

My grand-daughter (s) have been my qualifying person, but not my dependent. My single daughter claims her as dependent. My adult daughter and grandchild both live in my home,

I have been able to change my filing status on the form in the past how do I do that this year ?

Re: Head of Household confusion

SusanY1 — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:26:15 GMT

You will need to enter the data about your non-dependent qualifying person (your grand-daughter) for the program to allow selection of Head of Household. The IRS requires listing the "qualifying person" for HoH status on returns currently.

You will enter her in the area for dependents and in the follow-up questions be sure to indicate that someone else (her mother) provides more than half of her support. You will answer that you provide "more than half of the cost of keeping the home."

@mb123

Re: Head of Household confusion

macuser_22 — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:39:25 GMT

@mb123 wrote:

I have filed head of household for many years.

My grand-daughter (s) have been my qualifying person, but not my dependent. My single daughter claims her as dependent. My adult daughter and grandchild both live in my home,

I have been able to change my filing status on the form in the past how do I do that this year ?

If you have filed that way for years then you have filed false tax returns and have probably underpaid your tax. You should amend those years and file properly.

You can ONLY file HOH if you claim your granddaughter as a dependent. There is only ONE condition where HOH can be filed without actually claiming a child as a dependent and that is when the custodial *parent* releases the dependent to other non-custodial *parent* that does not live with the child. Only in that case can the custodial parent claim HOH. That does not apply to anyone other than the parents of the child.

See the rules for HOH in IRS pub 17. Table 2-1.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p17.pdf

Re: Head of Household confusion

Bsch4477 — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:36:25 GMT

Your granddaughter can’t be your qualifying person for head of household because she is the qualifying child of your daughter.

Re: Head of Household confusion

mb123 — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:18:44 GMT

I'm afraid I need more step by step, turbo says she has to be a dependent, IRS says she doesn't ??

thanks

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xmasbaby0 — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:23:24 GMT

@mb123 Not sure what you have been dong for those past years, but if your grandchild was your only qualifying dependent to file as HOH then she had to be your dependent--not your daughter's dependent.

Am I Head of Household?

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1894553-do-i-qualify-for-head-of-household

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/2900097-what-is-a-qualifying-person-for-head-of-household

If you qualify as Head of Household, when you enter your filing status (single or married filing separately) into MyInfo, and then enter your qualifying dependent, TurboTax will offer HOH as your filing status.

Re: Head of Household confusion

mb123 — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:33:54 GMT

my daughter files single w/ grand as dependent not HOH

Re: Head of Household confusion

macuser_22 — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:42:39 GMT

@mb123 wrote:

my daughter files single w/ grand as dependent not HOH

Exactly, so shat cannot also be your qualifying child. You are misinterpreting the IRS rules that say who can be a qualifying person for HOH is your qualifying child such as a grandchild.

"Qualifying person" and "Qualifying Child" are two totally different things. To be a qualifying child that child *must* be your dependent, only then can that qualifying child be a "qualifying person" for HOH.

IRS rules can be very confusing which is why people use tax software that follows the rules and as you found out, TurboTax will not allow that which is correct. The child is already the mothers qualifying child and cannot be yours also.

Re: Head of Household confusion

mb123 — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:56:57 GMT

I meet all the reqs for home

qualifying child doesn't have to be my dependent

Re: Head of Household confusion

mb123 — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:03:36 GMT

A qualifying child would be:

Your child (including legally adopted), stepchild, foster child, sibling, half-sibling, step-sibling, or a descendant of any of them (for example, your grandchild or niece) AND
Permanently and totally disabled OR under the age of 19 as of December 31, 2019 (under 24 if a full-time student) and younger than you (or your spouse, if filing jointly) AND
Lived with you for more than half the year AND
Single (or if the child is married, you'd have to qualify to claim them as a dependent even if you're not going to claim them as such).

all this applies single grand daughter, under 19 - lived with me