https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/a-rel-nofollow-target-blank-href-https-ttlc-intu/01/791640#M314579 &lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="<A href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/4621180&quot;&gt;https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/4621180&lt;/a&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(Reported" target="_blank">https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/4621180"&gt;https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/4621180&lt;/a&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(Reported</A> TurboTax "Update" or "Fix" information relating to circumstances relating to Form 2210, where "underpayment penalty" is not applicable; indicated, tentatively, for release on Friday, February 22, 2019; based on posters understanding.<BR /><BR />In response to above question as to whether it would make sense to file without the Form 2210 attached:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;There appear to be conflicting information between TurboTax and IRS regarding this issue, on several levels, as follows: <BR /><BR />(1)&nbsp;&nbsp;Per the Form 2210, per the Form 2210 For and Instructions, it appears, based on my understanding, to indicate that, under normal tax-year circumstances, if an "underpayment penalty" is not applicable, that Form 2210, ordinarily, is instructed to NOT be filed with the 1040 Return;<BR /><BR />(2)&nbsp;&nbsp;However, due to Tax Reform regulations introduced in 2017 and affecting 2018:&nbsp;&nbsp;Form 2210 has some addition provisions, including an "85% Waiver/Exception"(and related "85% Exception Smart Worksheet" that is present on the TurboTax "Form 2210 Form" (however, disappears from the same form when printed); as well as including some additional Part II Check-Boxes;<BR /><BR />(3)&nbsp;&nbsp;One of these check-boxes (and the root cause and source of many of the posts on this TurboTax website) in Part II, is the problematical&nbsp;&nbsp;"Box A"... That, when "checked", triggers the Form's provision "don't file Form 2210 unless one or more boxes in Part II (including "Box A") applies;<BR /><BR />(4) STAGE 1: And the first resulting fundamental problems of "Part II, Box A", as it pertains to the present TurboTax program, is that this "Part II, Box A" is "pre-selected" by the TurboTax program and does not readily allow for the Box A to be "unchecked"--- and, thus, triggering the additional Form 2210&nbsp;&nbsp;provision, indicating: "You...must file page 1 of Form 2210;<BR /><BR />(5) Again, I'm cases (and in most previous tax years)&nbsp;&nbsp;where you are NOT subject, or owe, a, "Underpayment Penalty" you would NOT need to file a Form 2210--- However the "frozen" Part II, Box A" being pre-selected (and not subject to deletion) by TurboTax's present program, is what is causing the first-part of the problem, in that it is now requiring it to be "filed" (when, normally it would not have to be files);<BR /><BR />(6) STAGE 2:&nbsp;&nbsp;(and a major part) of the problem that many TurboTax users are encountering, is that the Form 2210, itself is triggering a problem in being (or, more-accurately, in many cases, "not being able") to be e-filed---and, additionally, Turbo Tax indicating, in many cases, that the Tax Returns need to be "mailed";<BR /><BR />(7)&nbsp;&nbsp;In my own case, where an "Underpayment Penalty" was not applicable:&nbsp;&nbsp;During the Turbo Tax "step-by-step" data entry dialogue, I encountered in the "Other Situations&gt; Additional Tax Payments&gt; UnderpaymentPenalties" step, a TurboTax statement, indicating: "You don't owe an underpayment penalty.&nbsp;&nbsp;However, Form 2210, Underpayment of Estimated Tax , must be filed with your tax return";<BR />(8) Based on my own analysis:&nbsp;&nbsp;I decided that it would be "OK" to file the Form 2210 (even though it was not applicable to my particular tax situation whereby I was not subject to an "underpayment penalty") based on the theory that it was probably a better option for IRS to HAVE Form 2210 (and not need it), rather for for IRS to NOT HAVE Form 2210 (and need it for some reason); as well, as the instructions on the TurboTax data-entry website that clearly indicated&nbsp;&nbsp;that "Form 2210..must be filed with your tax return"; and<BR /><BR />(8)&nbsp;&nbsp;STAGE 3: Relates to the fundamental challenge of getting a successful e-file of the Tax Return via TurboTax, which as many, including myself, TurboTax customers have reported on this website, may require as many as 3-5 unsuccessful attempts (before having their Returns "Accepted", and, some, not ever being able to get their Returns "Accepted")..&nbsp;&nbsp;and, only to be left with a defeating, frustrating, "Reject" notification.<BR /><BR />Everyone's tax situation is different (and requiring different forms); and, TurboTax, based on poster's understanding, offers different platforms (including "On-Line", "CD", Download, etc.); as well as different versions (including" Deluxe, Premier, Free, Business) and for different operating systems (PC and Mac OS)--- And, based on the comments on the TurboTax website---There appear to be different procedures and capabilities relating to the entry of tax data and features--- which affect the capabilities, in differing ways, in interacting with the "Form 2210" issues and capabilities (NOTE: And, which my experience, and above comments, with these Form 2210 issues may not be applicable to other TurboTax users); and, I was (after two "rejects") was finally successful in getting my Tax Returns (and Form 2210) e-filed on TurboTax, based on the following parameters and procedures relating to the Form 2210:<BR /><BR />PRODUCT:&nbsp;&nbsp;TurboTax Premier (for Mac OS)<BR />FORMAT:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;CD<BR />(a)&nbsp;&nbsp;I left the Form 2210 the way TurboTax prepared it, based on my 2017 and 2018 Tax data;<BR />(b)&nbsp;&nbsp;Part I, Line 9 was pre-filled and "checked""Yes" (and I didn't change it, as it couldn't be&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"unchecked";&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR />(b)&nbsp;&nbsp;Part II, Box 4 was pre-filled by TurboTax (and I didn't change it, as it couldn't be "unchecked");<BR />(c)&nbsp;&nbsp;Part II, Box B was "unchecked";<BR />(d)&nbsp;&nbsp;Part II, Box B-Line (at right-margin): The "Explain" box was "clicked", and the "85% Waiver" statement was completed, indicating: "If applicable, 85% Exception Waiver, requested due to Tax Reform and/or Other Reasons"; and<BR />e)&nbsp;&nbsp;Box "C"(at top of 2210 Form, above Part I): "Checked";&nbsp;&nbsp;("Check to have the IRS figure the penalty and send a bill if penalty due");<BR /><BR />&nbsp;(NOTES:&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR />(1) My first two attempts to to e-file the Returns&nbsp;&nbsp;were "rejected-"-- And, it was only AFTER that I "checked" this ""Box C", that my return was successfully filed and "Accepted";<BR /><BR />(2)&nbsp;&nbsp;Upon "printing" the Tax Return:&nbsp;&nbsp;The "first" page of Form 2210 printed (although the format of the "printed" page varied from TurboTax's data-entry version, including: the "85% Exception Smart Worksheet" (and data) were not present on the printed Form 2210.&nbsp;&nbsp;And, in addition, the "Waiver Statement" printed as the very-last page of the Return;<BR /><BR />(3) I did not alter 2017 (or 2018, or any other) tax figures in an attempt to change, force, suppress, interfere or influence any aspects (and related/resulting accuracy and integrity) of the data generated by, and results of, the TurboTax system and/or program.<BR /><BR />DISCLAIMER:&nbsp;&nbsp;I am not an accountant, expert, employee or representative on/of TurboTax or the IRS:&nbsp;&nbsp;And the above comments are based, strictly, on my (poster's) own opinions, understanding and experience with these particular TurboTax issue(s); and, are not intended to be applicable to the unique circumstances of any other TurboTax user; and are for "feedback purposes, only; and, the information, comments and results of, or experienced by, poster are NOT guaranteed and/or intended to be relied on, or be specific (or general( recommendations of IRS Tax or TurboTax advice.<BR /><BR /> Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:47:01 GMT macnaz 2019-06-07T23:47:01Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/how-do-i-delete-form-2210/01/790445#M314087 Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:42:53 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/how-do-i-delete-form-2210/01/790445#M314087 taxmar 2019-06-07T23:42:53Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/here-s-the-general-procedure-for-deleting-unwanted-forms/01/790450#M314092 <P></P><P>Here's the general procedure for deleting unwanted forms, schedules, and worksheets in TurboTax Online:</P> <OL> <LI>Open your return in TurboTax. (To do this, sign in to TurboTax, and select the&nbsp;Take me to my return button.)</LI> <LI>In the left&nbsp;side bar, select&nbsp;Tax Tools&gt;&nbsp;Tools.</LI> <LI>In the pop-up window Tool Center, choose&nbsp;Delete a form.</LI> <LI>Select&nbsp;Delete next to the form/schedule/worksheet and follow the onscreen instructions.</LI> </OL>If you delete this form 2210, the IRS will figure the penalty for you.<BR /><P></P> Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:42:54 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/here-s-the-general-procedure-for-deleting-unwanted-forms/01/790450#M314092 MichelleT 2019-06-07T23:42:54Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-deleted-the-form-but-when-i-try-to-file-electronically/01/790455#M314097 I deleted the form, but when I try to file electronically Turbotax recreates the form with Part II, box A incorrectly checked.&nbsp;&nbsp;Turbotax will not let me uncheck the box.&nbsp;&nbsp;This is preventing me from filing electronically. Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:42:56 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-deleted-the-form-but-when-i-try-to-file-electronically/01/790455#M314097 chazlm1 2019-06-07T23:42:56Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/yes-me-too/01/790461#M314099 YES!!!&nbsp;&nbsp;Me too...... Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:42:57 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/yes-me-too/01/790461#M314099 rltims 2019-06-07T23:42:57Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/same-here-and-no-answer-from-experts-via-phone/01/790463#M314100 Same here...and no answer from experts via phone Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:42:58 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/same-here-and-no-answer-from-experts-via-phone/01/790463#M314100 Loefflerh 2019-06-07T23:42:58Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/my-problem-also/01/790471#M314101 My problem also Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:42:59 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/my-problem-also/01/790471#M314101 cgregr 2019-06-07T23:42:59Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/add-another-yes-to-this-error-fix-it/01/790476#M314102 Add another yes to this error. Fix it! Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:00 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/add-another-yes-to-this-error-fix-it/01/790476#M314102 kewray2 2019-06-07T23:43:00Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-m-having-the-same-problem/01/790483#M314103 I'm having the same problem.&nbsp;&nbsp; Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:02 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-m-having-the-same-problem/01/790483#M314103 mromero7785 2019-06-07T23:43:02Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/obviously-a-bug-so-fix-it-already-for-once-i-m-gettin/01/790492#M314104 Obviously a bug.&nbsp;&nbsp;So fix it already!&nbsp;&nbsp;For once I'm getting a refund.&nbsp;&nbsp;May have to file on paper, which makes Turbo Tax less desirable. Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:03 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/obviously-a-bug-so-fix-it-already-for-once-i-m-gettin/01/790492#M314104 downingr77 2019-06-07T23:43:03Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-also-have-that-same-problem-tt-will-you-announce-a-fix/01/790498#M314105 I also have that same problem! TT will you announce a fix for this on this thread? Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:05 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-also-have-that-same-problem-tt-will-you-announce-a-fix/01/790498#M314105 martyb555 2019-06-07T23:43:05Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-m-having-the-exact-same-problem-with-form-2210-part-ii/01/790503#M314106 I'm having the exact same problem with FORM 2210, Part II, box A.&nbsp;&nbsp;I cannot delete the form... So I cannot move forward with e-filing. <BR />I've spoken with multiple TT representatives today. Over 6 hours dealing with this issue... I just got off the phone with a TT agent (I was on the phone with her for over 2 hours!) She said TT is finally recognizing that multiple people are dealing with this issue and that it is a bug with their on-line program and are working on a fix. In the meantime, they offered to send me the software/download version... which means I will need to start over and re-enter ALL my information. (But from what I've read, other people are having this same issue with the download version as well.) So I'm hoping TT finds a solution in the next few days so I can avoid having to repeat all the work I've already completed. Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:06 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-m-having-the-exact-same-problem-with-form-2210-part-ii/01/790503#M314106 LCS1982 2019-06-07T23:43:06Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-m-having-the-same-problem-turbotax-has-been-a-great-sy/01/790509#M314108 I'm having the same problem. TurboTax has been a great system up to this point. This needs to get fixed. The tech support robot basically told me not to call about this issue and hung up. TurboTax, I'm losing faith in your program. Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:08 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-m-having-the-same-problem-turbotax-has-been-a-great-sy/01/790509#M314108 c3larson 2019-06-07T23:43:08Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/having-a-similar-problem-as-well-the-error-isn-t-limited/01/790516#M314110 Having a similar problem as well. The error isn't limited just to the online platform- I have the mac desktop version and getting the same error. I was on the phone with TT yesterday (approximately 2 hours with a turbotax representative and then transferred to CPA) who agreed it was a bug and said "someone will begin working on it immediately". Hopefully it will be fixed in the next day or two. Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:09 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/having-a-similar-problem-as-well-the-error-isn-t-limited/01/790516#M314110 jzadeh87 2019-06-07T23:43:09Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-have-windows-desktop-version-and-i-too-can-t-delete-tha/01/790525#M314113 I have windows desktop version and I too can’t delete that big red X in part II box A.&nbsp;&nbsp;Tried to delete the form but it reappears in the list of forms after following recommended delete a form instructions. Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:11 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-have-windows-desktop-version-and-i-too-can-t-delete-tha/01/790525#M314113 twongxhmc 2019-06-07T23:43:11Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-have-the-same-exact-issue-box-a-in-part-ii-is-incorrec/01/790531#M314115 I have the same exact issue. Box A in Part II is incorrectly checked. Can't delete. This is a bug in the code Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:12 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-have-the-same-exact-issue-box-a-in-part-ii-is-incorrec/01/790531#M314115 Butterfly1 2019-06-07T23:43:12Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-have-the-same-issue-with-form-2210-and-also-form-d-422/01/790533#M314116 I have the same issue with form 2210 and also form D-422, which is the State underpayment form. And I did NOT underpay. I OVERPAID and get a refund, yet as part of the interview process, maybe because of the order I went through the return, TT thinks I need these forms. PLEASE FIX THIS. Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:13 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-have-the-same-issue-with-form-2210-and-also-form-d-422/01/790533#M314116 brenthe 2019-06-07T23:43:13Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/there-was-an-update-just-released-at-least-for-mac-deskt/01/790539#M314119 There was an update just released (at least for mac desktop version) that eliminates the error on the smart check. Hope it is the same for everyone else! Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:14 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/there-was-an-update-just-released-at-least-for-mac-deskt/01/790539#M314119 jzadeh87 2019-06-07T23:43:14Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-came-here-too-having-this-bug-on-turbo-tax-mac-i-start/01/790542#M314121 I came here too having this bug on Turbo Tax Mac, I started my work about 3 hours ago. I just reopened, got the update, and Smart check now finds no errors. Thanks! Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:16 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/i-came-here-too-having-this-bug-on-turbo-tax-mac-i-start/01/790542#M314121 Don-TT 2019-06-07T23:43:16Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/it-seems-like-the-bug-is-fixed/01/790548#M314125 It seems like the bug is fixed! Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:17 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/it-seems-like-the-bug-is-fixed/01/790548#M314125 LCS1982 2019-06-07T23:43:17Z https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/thank-you-turbo-tax-for-addressing-the-issue/01/790562#M314135 Thank you Turbo Tax for addressing the issue. Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:43:18 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/thank-you-turbo-tax-for-addressing-the-issue/01/790562#M314135 LCS1982 2019-06-07T23:43:18Z